[u]Fellow Guardians, WOW! Thank you All so much for all the Upvotes and Signatures, this thread took off like a rocket and I cannot express how thankful I am, you're a great bunch of people[/u] :)
[i](Please UpVote and Comment "Signed" if you want this to 'Trend" and be seen by DeeJ etc)[/i]
Nobody enjoys doing hours of farming [b]SpinMetal[/b], [b]Spirit Bloom[/b], [b]Helium Filaments[/b][b] or Relic Iron[/b]
It takes 64-80 of these materials to fully upgrade a Legendary or Exotic.
This equates to the farming for the almost a hour.
In the late end-game most players will need to put in about 10+ hours of farming.
I accept this is part of the RPG-MMO game style put we’re approaching South Park “Killing Boars” in WoW magnitudes here.
Why can’t we receive a percentage of the Materials we’ve spent in return for dismantling an upgraded piece of gear.
Even a token 25% would be better than nothing, it would help the end-game in all the right ways.
An amount like 50% would be great but I doubt this will happen given how the rest of the upgrading system works.
33% would be extremely fair, still require a decent bit off farming but not completely ruin the late-end game experience.
To have a decent PvE and PvP load out takes almost 1,200 Materials.
That’s 3 fully upgraded Legendaries/Exotics in each of the 3 weapon slots.
6 fully upgraded pieces of armour (say 2 different exotics for an alternative PvP load out or alternative Exotic to suit your 2nd Subclass).
Come on Bungie, with the DLC launching soon there are gonna be a lot of very annoyed level 28+ players who spent many hours getting high level gear.
That gear will now be redundant (if we ignore all “you can upgrade it further” [u]speculation[/u]).
We’ll have players (myself included) with all sorts of Raid gear, Iron Banner gear, Queens Wrath Gear (haha) and Exotics.
The least you could do is give us a decent portion of our Materials (and Shards/Energy) back.
Please sign, like, bump, upvote, whatever this thread if you’d like to see it addressed by Bungie and the Community management team
Added a poll so you can vote for what percentage you think we should receive when scrapping gear.
Good Luck out there Guardians.
Thanks in Advance GenericDreadHead
[b]Edit 1: [/b]Spelling and so forth :P
[b]Edit 2: [u]The Zero % Option edit.[/u][/b] Wow, ok seems like I'm getting a lot of hate for the Poll options, for what it's worth I tried editing the poll to add a 0% option.
Guess what? I can't edit it, so.... sorry about that. Really the idea of the Thread was to get "Signatures/Bumps" and "Upvotes/Likes" to keep it trending, the poll was merely an after thought and not put in with a "Add every option under the sunsinger" attitude. It was, if you "agree" with the concept of the Thread, you could add some self expression by picking your preferred solution. You will also notice I did not add a 100% option... or a 12.5% option, or a 75% option etc. I'm absolutely more than happy for a Mod/Admin to step in at the back end and add a 4th Poll option for 0%. Sorry for not having considered the 0% option, as you will see the other 3 options were in my thought process when I wrote the original post. Thanks for your feedback, at least nobody died..... yet... >:-|
[b]Edit 3: [/b] Ok..... jeez louise... look I realise that DeeJ and Co would have listened to my idea even If I was a sole person saying what I'm saying, that's whats good about the community. What I was trying to convey in the original post was a singular straight forward fix to what I and many others perceive to be one of the biggest mis-steps in the games flow of excitement (farming).
I'm sorry if this kicked off any other petitions or just added to an existing petition problem.
What I saw, when I saw a lot of other posters suggestions were, and I'm going to be brutality honest here:
Posts asking for about 7 big changes, the kind of things that would be realistically over maybe 4 patches. I may be in the minority here, but 1 thread per suggestion would catch my attention and could clearly convey it's message.
Also, some of what was being asked for was very subjective, I tried my best to be as objective as possible, taking my own personal annoyance at farming and stepping back and trying to focus on that being a possible problem with the games mechanics and less of a "dag nab it, I just hates me doing some loops cause it's all up in my business for 20 minutes".
Also, I saw a lot of "Xur should or should not sell this" and "This gun and that gun should be buffed/nerfed".
There are some great threads with some really great suggestions (see the thread to enable to edit character looks etc) but they were buried in the likes of the above mentioned.
What I'm trying to say in hindsight is, in my long winded way, I maybe should have left out the "Petition" part and just said, "Do you think?" and give Yes, No and Maybe So Poll options, but well, here we are now.
I realise my voice alone would not have been unheard, I just kind of hoped maybe some like minded voices could gather in the same space together.
Also thanks to everyone who pointed out recent comments by DeeJ and co where they say they are address the Farming and Economy.
This is very welcome news but I was just trying to create some urgency I guess. I mean they also said Thorn would be buffed ages ago :D
Finally thanks for all of you with you patience and understanding and ,from what I can tell, little or no trolling :)
We've all made mistake on internet forums, if I could turn back time and edit the thread I would.
So much love for this forum and community right now. Group hug? Anyone? Telekineses Hug maybe? :D
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I just thought I would throw this out there...I had legendary hand cannon, All upgrades unlocked, but not actually applied. Not even one. I was unsure If I would use it but it was something to apply the Xp from bounties to. I got fatebringer which set in stone the fact that I wouldn't be using it. Broke it down, got Glimmer, weapon parts, 5 Ascendant energy, a green ammo synth (odd) and a hand cannon telemetry.
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Nope, they have patrols that allow you to get all the material you need. It's not that hard to learn a route, plus you get faction/vanguard experience while on patrol.
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Signed
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No. Its easy enough as it is to get materials. In an hour you have enough to upgrade. Thats not much work.
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Voted. I would be really pleased if you got 50% back but I thought it would be more fair to get a third instead. Hopefully bungie sees it as a little more reasonable. :)
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50% sounds right.
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Signed, farming ia a pain.
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I'm down with a reasonable return of 50 percent of my total investment at trade-in.
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signed
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It would be great if this happened, but I doubt Bungie will even see this
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Signed.
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I dismantled a maxed legendary handcannon that had become redundant. I received five ascendant energy and a handcannon telemetry. It was a fair trade in my opinion.
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I've been wanting this since I Dismantles my first Legendary to replace it with a Queen's Guard Robe. I didn't make sense that I spent Vanguard points, about 50 Spin Metal, and 18 Shards just to find a 'better' chest piece for my Warlock. It does, in a way, defeat the purpose of farming mats to upgrade your gear, especially when you know that all the time AND mats spent upgrading this new piece of gear, will all be in vain when you replace it with a piece of Raid gear, or the upcoming gear that will take us to Light Lvl 32. It really makes me consider just sticking at 29 until Crota's End is released. That way I can save a chunk of Shards and mats I'll have to use on this future gear anyways. Better than 'wasting' them on a temporary piece of gear I'd only use for a month tops. :/
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Signed I broke down a fully upgraded helm and got 0 shards
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I should have to use material to break down my stuff
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Edited by DzusHawke: 11/26/2014 5:23:38 PMI want all of it
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i think this is a great idea
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I agree, but there should be a steep penalty. I voted for 33%
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think end game rolls in pvp and strikes would be better. bundles of 20 so you didn't have run in endless circles plus fill some those empty spaces in reward screen
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Voted
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Signed.
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Signed.
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Signed.
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Signed but im pretty sure you will be able to buy materials soon.
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Signed
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Signed.