[u]Fellow Guardians, WOW! Thank you All so much for all the Upvotes and Signatures, this thread took off like a rocket and I cannot express how thankful I am, you're a great bunch of people[/u] :)
[i](Please UpVote and Comment "Signed" if you want this to 'Trend" and be seen by DeeJ etc)[/i]
Nobody enjoys doing hours of farming [b]SpinMetal[/b], [b]Spirit Bloom[/b], [b]Helium Filaments[/b][b] or Relic Iron[/b]
It takes 64-80 of these materials to fully upgrade a Legendary or Exotic.
This equates to the farming for the almost a hour.
In the late end-game most players will need to put in about 10+ hours of farming.
I accept this is part of the RPG-MMO game style put we’re approaching South Park “Killing Boars” in WoW magnitudes here.
Why can’t we receive a percentage of the Materials we’ve spent in return for dismantling an upgraded piece of gear.
Even a token 25% would be better than nothing, it would help the end-game in all the right ways.
An amount like 50% would be great but I doubt this will happen given how the rest of the upgrading system works.
33% would be extremely fair, still require a decent bit off farming but not completely ruin the late-end game experience.
To have a decent PvE and PvP load out takes almost 1,200 Materials.
That’s 3 fully upgraded Legendaries/Exotics in each of the 3 weapon slots.
6 fully upgraded pieces of armour (say 2 different exotics for an alternative PvP load out or alternative Exotic to suit your 2nd Subclass).
Come on Bungie, with the DLC launching soon there are gonna be a lot of very annoyed level 28+ players who spent many hours getting high level gear.
That gear will now be redundant (if we ignore all “you can upgrade it further” [u]speculation[/u]).
We’ll have players (myself included) with all sorts of Raid gear, Iron Banner gear, Queens Wrath Gear (haha) and Exotics.
The least you could do is give us a decent portion of our Materials (and Shards/Energy) back.
Please sign, like, bump, upvote, whatever this thread if you’d like to see it addressed by Bungie and the Community management team
Added a poll so you can vote for what percentage you think we should receive when scrapping gear.
Good Luck out there Guardians.
Thanks in Advance GenericDreadHead
[b]Edit 1: [/b]Spelling and so forth :P
[b]Edit 2: [u]The Zero % Option edit.[/u][/b] Wow, ok seems like I'm getting a lot of hate for the Poll options, for what it's worth I tried editing the poll to add a 0% option.
Guess what? I can't edit it, so.... sorry about that. Really the idea of the Thread was to get "Signatures/Bumps" and "Upvotes/Likes" to keep it trending, the poll was merely an after thought and not put in with a "Add every option under the sunsinger" attitude. It was, if you "agree" with the concept of the Thread, you could add some self expression by picking your preferred solution. You will also notice I did not add a 100% option... or a 12.5% option, or a 75% option etc. I'm absolutely more than happy for a Mod/Admin to step in at the back end and add a 4th Poll option for 0%. Sorry for not having considered the 0% option, as you will see the other 3 options were in my thought process when I wrote the original post. Thanks for your feedback, at least nobody died..... yet... >:-|
[b]Edit 3: [/b] Ok..... jeez louise... look I realise that DeeJ and Co would have listened to my idea even If I was a sole person saying what I'm saying, that's whats good about the community. What I was trying to convey in the original post was a singular straight forward fix to what I and many others perceive to be one of the biggest mis-steps in the games flow of excitement (farming).
I'm sorry if this kicked off any other petitions or just added to an existing petition problem.
What I saw, when I saw a lot of other posters suggestions were, and I'm going to be brutality honest here:
Posts asking for about 7 big changes, the kind of things that would be realistically over maybe 4 patches. I may be in the minority here, but 1 thread per suggestion would catch my attention and could clearly convey it's message.
Also, some of what was being asked for was very subjective, I tried my best to be as objective as possible, taking my own personal annoyance at farming and stepping back and trying to focus on that being a possible problem with the games mechanics and less of a "dag nab it, I just hates me doing some loops cause it's all up in my business for 20 minutes".
Also, I saw a lot of "Xur should or should not sell this" and "This gun and that gun should be buffed/nerfed".
There are some great threads with some really great suggestions (see the thread to enable to edit character looks etc) but they were buried in the likes of the above mentioned.
What I'm trying to say in hindsight is, in my long winded way, I maybe should have left out the "Petition" part and just said, "Do you think?" and give Yes, No and Maybe So Poll options, but well, here we are now.
I realise my voice alone would not have been unheard, I just kind of hoped maybe some like minded voices could gather in the same space together.
Also thanks to everyone who pointed out recent comments by DeeJ and co where they say they are address the Farming and Economy.
This is very welcome news but I was just trying to create some urgency I guess. I mean they also said Thorn would be buffed ages ago :D
Finally thanks for all of you with you patience and understanding and ,from what I can tell, little or no trolling :)
We've all made mistake on internet forums, if I could turn back time and edit the thread I would.
So much love for this forum and community right now. Group hug? Anyone? Telekineses Hug maybe? :D
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I haven't done it yet but you don't get anything extra from dismanteling upgraded Legendary or Exotic stuff?
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50% yes
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Bump. Something, give us something back.
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I voted for 25%. Good idea for people who had to upgrade Vanguard or Crucible gear to be able to get into the raid.
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There should be coming changes to how you obtain materials. Through a vendor. But getting glimmer will be the problem when this happens. So I'd like to go for the 25%. There just needs to be a large penalty to dismantling.
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Can we make this game easier? I don't want to try so hard. Oh wait, I don't need to build 3 characters....
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25 is reasonable. 50 will never happen
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It would be cool to get 33-50% of Materials back.
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Edited by SisterSafetyPin: 11/26/2014 6:11:27 PMNo. It would become slightly game breaking. If Bungie implements all the cheap shortcuts people want, we will be a few steps away from Micro-transactions for people who would rather spend money to boost their character then to actually play the game
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Learn off your first build and you won't have to grind so much on your next 2. It sucks but we've all done it. It's what gives us the 2 months of playability. Otherwise everyone would of quit playing a month ago.
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The idea of coins for mats is better
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Like the suggestion. Would like to see patrol missions reward planet materials as well. Maybe an upgrade on collection after so many harvested and not found on a chest. 2-3 more would do.
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Would be a great idea.
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it would be fine if they made patrol a little more interesting
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Patrol routes are not hard. I've got ones I can abuse on the regular on each planet... with other people running the same cycle. All of them also coinside with an area for an event - which I hit everytime I go to these spots - for shards and energies. I upgraded my IB leggings last night 3 times in the span of 20 minutes. I have 2 more upgrades on them, only thing stopped me for those was the lack of shards. Materials are easy to get. While I see your point, and it's a good one, I feel anything more than 25% is too much. So, that's how I voted.
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I almost quit destiny when I found out that I had to farm for materials; I seriously went to the store and looked for other games to buy; of course nothing was even remotely looking good at the time. I get BOTH sides of the argument; I've spent so much time farming that it killed the game for me. For all my coworkers into it and now I'm just play DA:I..... Which funny enough has a lot of grinding (but at least it's quests!)
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Yes please, I'm so sick of material farming that I almost can't be bothered to get better gear, I'm 29 and I've put so much into my lower level legendaries I just cannot be bothered anymore
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BUMP!!!!! i hate farming.
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I don't believe you need fully upgraded gear or weapons to be good in PvP (unless it's in Iron Banner), but definitely in PvE so you can do raids and nightfall/weekly. A return of 1/3 of your materials would be nice if it is fully upgraded gear of material. Other than that it would have to be lower amount.
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[quote]Nobody enjoys doing hours of farming SpinMetal, Spirit Bloom, Helium or Iron[/quote] 100% True.
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Edited by Bilbo Fraggins: 11/26/2014 6:00:36 PM-"MMO" -Need to farm -Please nerf Edit: Who here isn't sitting on 100+ shards/energy? Shit is given away lol [spoiler]No[/spoiler]
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I think we should be able to sell our gun parts and unique materials for each class. It would be awesome if we could trade gun parts to the gunsmith or vanguard for weapons or sparrows and our materials for armor.
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I was talking about this with a friend last night. Both of us have a vault full of exotics. I would love to try all these guns out, but i am not willing to put all the time/mats into farming a gun just to try it.
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I just thought I would throw this out there...I had legendary hand cannon, All upgrades unlocked, but not actually applied. Not even one. I was unsure If I would use it but it was something to apply the Xp from bounties to. I got fatebringer which set in stone the fact that I wouldn't be using it. Broke it down, got Glimmer, weapon parts, 5 Ascendant energy, a green ammo synth (odd) and a hand cannon telemetry.