[u]Fellow Guardians, WOW! Thank you All so much for all the Upvotes and Signatures, this thread took off like a rocket and I cannot express how thankful I am, you're a great bunch of people[/u] :)
[i](Please UpVote and Comment "Signed" if you want this to 'Trend" and be seen by DeeJ etc)[/i]
Nobody enjoys doing hours of farming [b]SpinMetal[/b], [b]Spirit Bloom[/b], [b]Helium Filaments[/b][b] or Relic Iron[/b]
It takes 64-80 of these materials to fully upgrade a Legendary or Exotic.
This equates to the farming for the almost a hour.
In the late end-game most players will need to put in about 10+ hours of farming.
I accept this is part of the RPG-MMO game style put we’re approaching South Park “Killing Boars” in WoW magnitudes here.
Why can’t we receive a percentage of the Materials we’ve spent in return for dismantling an upgraded piece of gear.
Even a token 25% would be better than nothing, it would help the end-game in all the right ways.
An amount like 50% would be great but I doubt this will happen given how the rest of the upgrading system works.
33% would be extremely fair, still require a decent bit off farming but not completely ruin the late-end game experience.
To have a decent PvE and PvP load out takes almost 1,200 Materials.
That’s 3 fully upgraded Legendaries/Exotics in each of the 3 weapon slots.
6 fully upgraded pieces of armour (say 2 different exotics for an alternative PvP load out or alternative Exotic to suit your 2nd Subclass).
Come on Bungie, with the DLC launching soon there are gonna be a lot of very annoyed level 28+ players who spent many hours getting high level gear.
That gear will now be redundant (if we ignore all “you can upgrade it further” [u]speculation[/u]).
We’ll have players (myself included) with all sorts of Raid gear, Iron Banner gear, Queens Wrath Gear (haha) and Exotics.
The least you could do is give us a decent portion of our Materials (and Shards/Energy) back.
Please sign, like, bump, upvote, whatever this thread if you’d like to see it addressed by Bungie and the Community management team
Added a poll so you can vote for what percentage you think we should receive when scrapping gear.
Good Luck out there Guardians.
Thanks in Advance GenericDreadHead
[b]Edit 1: [/b]Spelling and so forth :P
[b]Edit 2: [u]The Zero % Option edit.[/u][/b] Wow, ok seems like I'm getting a lot of hate for the Poll options, for what it's worth I tried editing the poll to add a 0% option.
Guess what? I can't edit it, so.... sorry about that. Really the idea of the Thread was to get "Signatures/Bumps" and "Upvotes/Likes" to keep it trending, the poll was merely an after thought and not put in with a "Add every option under the sunsinger" attitude. It was, if you "agree" with the concept of the Thread, you could add some self expression by picking your preferred solution. You will also notice I did not add a 100% option... or a 12.5% option, or a 75% option etc. I'm absolutely more than happy for a Mod/Admin to step in at the back end and add a 4th Poll option for 0%. Sorry for not having considered the 0% option, as you will see the other 3 options were in my thought process when I wrote the original post. Thanks for your feedback, at least nobody died..... yet... >:-|
[b]Edit 3: [/b] Ok..... jeez louise... look I realise that DeeJ and Co would have listened to my idea even If I was a sole person saying what I'm saying, that's whats good about the community. What I was trying to convey in the original post was a singular straight forward fix to what I and many others perceive to be one of the biggest mis-steps in the games flow of excitement (farming).
I'm sorry if this kicked off any other petitions or just added to an existing petition problem.
What I saw, when I saw a lot of other posters suggestions were, and I'm going to be brutality honest here:
Posts asking for about 7 big changes, the kind of things that would be realistically over maybe 4 patches. I may be in the minority here, but 1 thread per suggestion would catch my attention and could clearly convey it's message.
Also, some of what was being asked for was very subjective, I tried my best to be as objective as possible, taking my own personal annoyance at farming and stepping back and trying to focus on that being a possible problem with the games mechanics and less of a "dag nab it, I just hates me doing some loops cause it's all up in my business for 20 minutes".
Also, I saw a lot of "Xur should or should not sell this" and "This gun and that gun should be buffed/nerfed".
There are some great threads with some really great suggestions (see the thread to enable to edit character looks etc) but they were buried in the likes of the above mentioned.
What I'm trying to say in hindsight is, in my long winded way, I maybe should have left out the "Petition" part and just said, "Do you think?" and give Yes, No and Maybe So Poll options, but well, here we are now.
I realise my voice alone would not have been unheard, I just kind of hoped maybe some like minded voices could gather in the same space together.
Also thanks to everyone who pointed out recent comments by DeeJ and co where they say they are address the Farming and Economy.
This is very welcome news but I was just trying to create some urgency I guess. I mean they also said Thorn would be buffed ages ago :D
Finally thanks for all of you with you patience and understanding and ,from what I can tell, little or no trolling :)
We've all made mistake on internet forums, if I could turn back time and edit the thread I would.
So much love for this forum and community right now. Group hug? Anyone? Telekineses Hug maybe? :D
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Bump!
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I really hope the admins see this. It may seem like a small thing, but the little things like this should be updated.
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Edited by Brian Reborn: 11/27/2014 8:40:50 PMDon't you know? Endless loops trying to get pointless green items and 1 or 2 mats at a time is ok, but shooting into a cave is boring for all players and should be nerfed. Thanks bungie. You know us so well.
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signed signed signed signed signed yes please. Bungie is worse than Gamestop. if i spend 18 shards/energies leveling up a legendary piece, i think i deserve more than 3 back when i shard it.
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Signed. I agree with this concept.
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You can't have a poll with only one answer. Where is the zero option?
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This needs to happen
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definitely need to happen all the time we spend upgrading this shit we need some reward for it
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Signed twice
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It already does this.
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I've upgraded a lot of gear in this game and I still manage to have over 300 spare shards and 200 energy waiting for the DLC, I see no need for this.
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Can somebody in the Tower sell materials? I mean we can exchange materials in for rep, totally not worth the long time spent attaining them in the first place. Spending glimmer for materials would be soo much better. What else do I spend my constantly maxed 25000 glimmer on?
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I actually made an account to complain about farming. It's not fun at all. Why is it part of the game in the first place? It just takes me away from what I like doing like raids and the crucible and has me driving my space moped around a desert looking for rocks! At least with plasteel and weapon parts I'm killing people and getting better at the game. If farming must be a part of the game can we at least upgrade our ability to do so? Maybe our ghost is able seek out spawn sites? Maybe he can mine multiple materials from one source as he levels up? I don't have time like other people to spend an hour doing virtual chores, I'd rather just play the rest of the game which I really enjoy and have been recommending to everyone.
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Nice one
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Signed
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I have a better idea. NO MORE FARMING MATERIEL'S !!! Farming is an annoying waste of time, time better spend doing Strike's or Bounties. You either have to make special effort to do, or you go out of your way when doing Bounties. They were originally not in the game, so what idiot implemented must have been taking the piss, or believed we would be bored enough to do some thing different. Well, if I get bored, I go play some thing else. But, Bungie are forcing me to do some thing unnecessary and completely crap. I hate Farming. Who else ???
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Wouldn't mind getting some of the materials back myself
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My friend makes YouTube videos
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Edited by Iris: 11/28/2014 4:17:38 AMI'd sign this, but Deej doesn't like petitions.
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If you put a "return 100% of materials back" then that would get the most votes. People just want whatever is easiest. Not saying all who picked 50% think this way, just the majority.
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A lot of people enjoy farming, myself included. I don't want a one dimensional game.
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.... Asking for bumps to get your post trending.......... ............ ....... Please go away.....
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Edited by ErkBirk: 11/27/2014 9:17:30 PMAnd to enlighten you, you will need NEW upgrade materials in [i]The Dark Below[/i]. Your argument is to refund [i]spent[/i] materials to make the [u]grind[/u] easier.... but you don't get it, most of you don't... It's called a "grind" because It's something you actually have to invest time into to see results. People were [i]grinding[/i] the Loot Cave for engrams. People are grinding Patrol for Faction Reputation. People will grind Hive mobs for Black Wax Idols. It's a grind. Stop asking for freebies all the time and actually work towards obtaining the things you want. Welfare isn't "fair" to the people who work hard and see little for it; so stop trying to make shortcuts where they needn't exist...