The arguments aren't weak, the topic of our arguments are weak. In all honesty, I think you're just jealous that you aren't in on this heated mindblowingly-awesome 'debate' of ours. The topic of the thread has already been answered a while ago. Getting back to the topic would only be spamming. Are you supporting spam now Stosh? Furthermore, I won't tolerate being called a lamer. Not even by somebody as hot as you Stosh. *breaks out the dueling glove* you want a little? :) Hugs & kisses everybody, I mean no harm.

Aww, this was just getting interesting.

This is just sad that I have to hold your hand through every argument I make, but since this hasn't become locked yet, I'll go ahead and do it. What's the point in being mature and letting it go after all? [quote]On the second quote, you saying that I misunderstood your post only proves how you misunderstood my post. In the above paragraph I just pointed out how you would like to see people say childish things rather then keep them to your selves, which is exactly what my second paragraph from that quote was proving wrong.[/quote] Ok, you read what I put first entirely incorrectly. I said " In my opinion, that's [taking the time to say 'I won't stoop to that level' or 'I won't be childish'] worse than coming outright and using namecalling because you're not just a jerk or insulting, but also you are a liar and a pretender." [b]Nowhere[/b] did I say that remaining silent was worse than actual namecalling. I said specifically that going through the trouble to type "I want to say mean things, but I won't be childish because I'm a good person," is worse than namecalling because you are only feigning moral highground. If you truly wished to avert being childish, then you wouldn't have posted at all. Do you understand? Am I getting through to you finally? Refraining from insults is great as long as you aren't actually trying to sneak in an insult by saying to the person you're arguing with that you will refrain from being childish. If you want to appear genuinely mature on the forum don't say "I'm too mature for that" because that's only another form of namecalling and insulting, but rather refrain from speaking entirely. I hope you got that, because I'm not explaining it again. [quote]Also you are insulting some of the veterans here that have been here for years[/quote] That was my intention. I know that several of them are good guys, but sticking around after everything has been said and done over a dozen times is just foolish. Seriously, there has to be a better way for somebody to spend their time. I've been on different forums for different lengths of time, but never for years. Anybody who can stay that long and avoid being totally disgusted or bored to tears needs to rethink the way their living their life and their values. Some things are a waste of time, and time is a horrible thing to waste. Knowingly wasting time on something completely trivial is a waste of life. And Halodude. . . I'm all about drawing criticism to my self. Now, do you want some too? "You're nothin' but a big headache, and I've got a pistol-full of Asprin" -Church [quote]In my point of view, this has decreased my respect for you, which I may add I did have respect for you, because after all we are just having a debate on some thing, not an argument.[/quote] Aww, I didn't know you cared. Thanks Live. You've warmed my heart, but the war must continue. I must have blood. [quote]Laslty, I saw you had no problem letting your childishness showing,. . . I think you are taking this way to far and are taking offense to this, which is not the point.[/quote] I know I'm childish. I love being childish. Ever wonder why children always seem so happy and adults are only satisfied when they have something particularly pleasing? It's because being an adult sucks. I'll take immaturity thankyou. As for the other statement, I may be taking it too far, but I hardly ever take offense. Honestly, I'm quite apathetic both sides of this argument. What I'm saying doesn't matter and neither does what you or the others say. It's just a forum. I say such cruel things only because I'm a bit of a jerk. Often I try to avoid it, but forums are the best place to let the evil out. You have anonymity and, for the most part, immunity. Actually I feel kinda' good saying mean things to strangers from a safe distance. It's pathetic. . . childish if you will. Something I don't get to do very often in reality, so I think I'll take advantage of it here. Gotta' vent my malevolence somewhere after all. [quote]so there is no point to this topic any more and should either be ignored or locked. [/quote] Now if you really believed that you wouldn't be replying would you? This is the same thing as "I won't be childish." You're trying to do something petty, getting the last word in for this argument, and secure that with a mod locking the post while maintaining a guise of being mature and wise. Really, enough with the pretending. Let's resort to namecalling and physical threats. Even if it's just sad, like our argument and the fact that I'm continuing it, it is so much more honest. The war rages on. [Edited on 6/1/2004 10:02:59 PM]

I think it should just be locked, theres no point in it any more, and its not leading to any thing good right now.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Scipio Horizon, the fact that you judge the value of somebody's opinion on how long they've spent on an internet forum dedicated to a videogame is ridiculous. If anything, staying years on a Bungie forum just proves you a fool. Staying so long on a place after you've seen every opinion on every topic is really just sad. Now, if you'd be so kind, stop eating and breathing because that's good, valuable air and food you're using up that could go to people who aren't quite so foolish and much more deserving.[/quote] Thou just insulted some of the most respected members on the forum! (sorry live killa, I couldn't resist) You shouldn't say such things unless you're open to heavy critisism, because that was a plain bad post (in my opinion). And please, no counter critisism, just ignore the topic, like live killa said.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Scipio [quote]And all of the sudden I am childish because I can stop my self from getting into arguments and such? Strange. I guess next time I will go all out and start a massive flame war, and when they ask why, its because you told me thats the right thing.[/quote] Try actually reading what I wrote. You quoted it in your post, it shouldn't be that hard. The sentence "Just don't say anything at all when you are insulted." actually [i]doesn't[/i] mean you should start a flame war. Nice job on interpretation there, Live. Please hang up and try again. [quote]No I get what you are saying, but every so often dosen't every one get an urge to just say "shut up" to some one, and then they stop them selves because it will lead to a bigger argument, and things could only get worse. I think your theory is wrong, because its harder to not get the last word, and not say mean things about some one saying things about you, rather to continue the argument, or start one for that matter.[/quote] Then you have misinterpreted what I said entirely. I can see stopping yourself halfway while saying "shutup" during actual conversation, but actually typing it and posting it on line is a bit ridiculous. If you really caught yourself saying something less than courteous and stopped yourself, you wouldn't have bothered to type anything at all. Your last sentence was actually rephrasing what I had already said, reflecting your lack of originality in your argument and the fact that you hardly understood what I said in the first place. With all that said, the above quote has no merit in this argument. Scipio has deemed your point incorrect and meaningless at best. Horizon, the fact that you judge the value of somebody's opinion on how long they've spent on an internet forum dedicated to a videogame is ridiculous. If anything, staying years on a Bungie forum just proves you a fool. Staying so long on a place after you've seen every opinion on every topic is really just sad. Now, if you'd be so kind, stop eating and breathing because that's good, valuable air and food you're using up that could go to people who aren't quite so foolish and much more deserving. Funny how high and mighty you people suddenly feel when one person repeats what I said to argue against it and another's evidence against me is almost as pathetic as the fact that he's allowed to spread his genes. Go ahead, believe it. You guys won the argument. Scipio is only a forum n00b who has only been here for a few months. You'd probably pwn that j00 in Halo anyway, right?[/quote] Ok, for the first time you quoted me, and you quoted this sentence from your original post "Just don't say anything at all when you are insulted." Well I'm sorry but your running cirlces here, because your the one that said you rather see people say childish things then hold them back and keep it to them selves. On the second quote, you saying that I misunderstood your post only proves how you misunderstood my post. In the above paragraph I just pointed out how you would like to see people say childish things rather then keep them to your selves, which is exactly what my second paragraph from that quote was proving wrong. Now I think what Horizon was pointing out rather, is that you jumped into some thing that had nothing to do with you, and I did not refer to you at all within this topic until you decided to take one of my quotes to far and think it through the whole way. Also you are insulting some of the veterans here that have been here for years by saying " If anything, staying years on a Bungie forum just proves you a fool. Staying so long on a place after you've seen every opinion on every topic is really just sad." In my point of view, this has decreased my respect for you, which I may add I did have respect for you, because after all we are just having a debate on some thing, not an argument. Laslty, I saw you had no problem letting your childishness showing when saying "Now, if you'd be so kind, stop eating and breathing because that's good, valuable air and food you're using up that could go to people who aren't quite so foolish and much more deserving." or when you said its "as the fact that he's allowed to spread his genes." I think you are taking this way to far and are taking offense to this, which is not the point. Why do I think your taking offense to this, maybe because you started using self pitty. Live killa has "deemed your point incorrect and meaningless at best...please hang up and" don't "try again." This is getting way off topic, and there is no point in discussing the topic any more since the creators answer was answered, so there is no point to this topic any more and should either be ignored or locked.

Hmm. . . I'd have a hard time saying the best movie 'of all time.' I agree that it is a good movie. I'd go so far as to say even a great one, but I wouldn't say greatest. There are too many awesome classics out there, new and old. Casablanca, Ben Hur, 2001 A Space Odyssey, Halloween, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, the LotR trilogy, and others are really hard to beat. Even by a pirate movie.

Seriously, pirates kick ass. Best movie of all time(in my opinion): Pirates of the Carribean.

Pirates are awesome, judicial system or not. Why try to make an argument that makes sense when you could be [i]a pirate![/i]

Of course, the fact that pirates have nothing to do with a judicial system except in being the target of its reprimands has not effect whatsoever upon you people?

Maybe not? I suggest "All knowing bum off the street who actually is God but enjoys wearing really old leotards"

The topic isn't all that important at the moment. The question was answered pretty early on, and now we're just kindly discussing Obbi's remark, the responses to them and those responses. Now, if you'd be so kind, I'd like a nametag. Ooh ooh! And I want it to have a skull with two crossed cutlasses undearneath it. Of course, the nametag must be black. I wanna be a pirate-plaintiff.

As much as I enjoy this mental fencing, does this have anything to do with the topic? I don't know about you, but this seems TOO much like a court here, so why don't I start giving out nametags? I am the baliff ( as no one knows me and I am also Egotist (i had to start a new e-mail)) and I give everyone else the opportunity to take a name.

[quote]And all of the sudden I am childish because I can stop my self from getting into arguments and such? Strange. I guess next time I will go all out and start a massive flame war, and when they ask why, its because you told me thats the right thing.[/quote] Try actually reading what I wrote. You quoted it in your post, it shouldn't be that hard. The sentence "Just don't say anything at all when you are insulted." actually [i]doesn't[/i] mean you should start a flame war. Nice job on interpretation there, Live. Please hang up and try again. [quote]No I get what you are saying, but every so often dosen't every one get an urge to just say "shut up" to some one, and then they stop them selves because it will lead to a bigger argument, and things could only get worse. I think your theory is wrong, because its harder to not get the last word, and not say mean things about some one saying things about you, rather to continue the argument, or start one for that matter.[/quote] Then you have misinterpreted what I said entirely. I can see stopping yourself halfway while saying "shutup" during actual conversation, but actually typing it and posting it on line is a bit ridiculous. If you really caught yourself saying something less than courteous and stopped yourself, you wouldn't have bothered to type anything at all. Your last sentence was actually rephrasing what I had already said, reflecting your lack of originality in your argument and the fact that you hardly understood what I said in the first place. With all that said, the above quote has no merit in this argument. Scipio has deemed your point incorrect and meaningless at best. Horizon, the fact that you judge the value of somebody's opinion on how long they've spent on an internet forum dedicated to a videogame is ridiculous. If anything, staying years on a Bungie forum just proves you a fool. Staying so long on a place after you've seen every opinion on every topic is really just sad. Now, if you'd be so kind, stop eating and breathing because that's good, valuable air and food you're using up that could go to people who aren't quite so foolish and much more deserving. Funny how high and mighty you people suddenly feel when one person repeats what I said to argue against it and another's evidence against me is almost as pathetic as the fact that he's allowed to spread his genes. Go ahead, believe it. You guys won the argument. Scipio is only a forum n00b who has only been here for a few months. You'd probably pwn that j00 in Halo anyway, right?

probably

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Scipio [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Live killa AKA NOT sarge ...I held my self back on this one. Like Yoozel for him self, I don't want to act childish.[/quote] Yet by hinting that you want to make such "childish" remarks, but refrain because of your maturity actually reflects your childish nature. You're only trying to mask it with a false moral high ground. Saying you won't stoop to somebody's level or that you are bigger than such lowly argument only proves you to be pompous. To the ignorant you have maturity and wisdom, but to the astute you are still using childish insults which have been slightly altered to save face. In my opinion, that's worse than coming outright and using namecalling because you're not just a jerk or insultin, but also you are a liar and a pretender. Show some [i]real[/i] maturity once in a while guys. Just don't say anything at all when you are insulted. If it doesn't contribute to the topic, don't post it. I understand how hypocrisy could be seen in my above statements, but I do not claim to be mature or above it all. I enjoy acting childish and making petty arguments over petty subjects. Enjoy.[/quote] Scripio only u would know

[quote]Live killa: Where did this guy come from?[/quote] Hey! He's been a member since April...the guy sees all and knows all! I hope you're picking up the sarcasm, because I'm laying it on pretty thick... Live Killa is right, Obbi does do a few things that seem a little harsh and totally off topic. If I was a monitor I'd probably tell him to ease up a bit. While there are a lot of stupid ppl in some of these forums, you don't have to remind everyone about it all the time. Plus, when you're starting to poke fun at a guys avatar...thats when you're running out of viable ideas and look like a fool.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Scipio Yet by hinting that you want to make such "childish" remarks, but refrain because of your maturity actually reflects your childish nature. You're only trying to mask it with a false moral high ground. Saying you won't stoop to somebody's level or that you are bigger than such lowly argument only proves you to be pompous. To the ignorant you have maturity and wisdom, but to the astute you are still using childish insults which have been slightly altered to save face. In my opinion, that's worse than coming outright and using namecalling because you're not just a jerk or insultin, but also you are a liar and a pretender. Show some [i]real[/i] maturity once in a while guys. Just don't say anything at all when you are insulted. If it doesn't contribute to the topic, don't post it. I understand how hypocrisy could be seen in my above statements, but I do not claim to be mature or above it all. I enjoy acting childish and making petty arguments over petty subjects. Enjoy.[/quote] Where did this guy come from? And all of the sudden I am childish because I can stop my self from getting into arguments and such? Strange. I guess next time I will go all out and start a massive flame war, and when they ask why, its because you told me thats the right thing. No I get what you are saying, but every so often dosen't every one get an urge to just say "shut up" to some one, and then they stop them selves because it will lead to a bigger argument, and things could only get worse. I think your theory is wrong, because its harder to not get the last word, and not say mean things about some one saying things about you, rather to continue the argument, or start one for that matter. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Rip Saw [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ObbiQuiet You do not deserve the Sarge avatar.[/quote]Hey! You're speaking to the great Live killa. Thou shall curb thy tongue![/quote] Hehe, oh stop it your making me blush, lol.