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Edited by ColdAtrophy: 11/3/2014 8:02:32 PM
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To Mr. Harold Ryan

[b]MAJOR UPDATE:[/b] Deej responded to me calling his attention to this thread in another thread. http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/76633207/0/0 It will probably get buried rather quickly because every time he posts, 1000 replies follow. Deej [quote]You weren't ignored. I read that. The point that Harold was making was that, when someone plays a game for 100 hours, you learn a lot. We've obviously created something you want to play. It's very obvious that you want to talk to us about how it can be better. When we stay focused on game feedback, good things can happen.[/quote] [b]EDIT: Please read the article I linked to before posting. I have been accused of taking his statement out of context, which I do not feel I did at all, and I want to make sure that no one feels like I mislead them. [/b] [quote]Harold Ryan: It's so broad. When I read a lot of the feedback, and I see it's after playing for 100 hours, it's hard not to couch that in, well if you played the game for 100 hours... What other game do you play for 100 hours, right?[/quote] This is not grounds for dismissing our feedback like you suggest. I'm calling you out. What games do we play for more than 100 hours? Since you don't seem to know of any, please allow me and my fellow gamers to educate you. Fellow Bungie.net users, please feel free to add to this list and/or tweet away @Bungie or @Destiny your ideas about how many other games you can put more than 100 hours into. I'll start. Morrowind Oblivion Skyrim Any CoD game Mass Effect 1 - 3 (I logged 400 hours on ME3's MP alone) Dragon Age Borderlands 1 Borderlands 2 Any Battlefield game (I personally have logged over 1200 hours between BF3 and BF4) Any Halo game Any Guitar Hero or Rockband Diablo 1-3 Star Wars: KoToR 1 & 2 There are many more. [b]MANY. MORE.[/b] [u]From responses to the OP:[/u] 1943 2048 Ace Combat 5 Aces High 2 Act Raiser Advanced Wars series on GBA, DS & emu 2000+ hours over a decade of play Age of Empires (series) Aion Alpha Protocol America's Army 2 Angband Angry Birds Anno 2070 (with and without the A.R.R.C. mod) APB ArmA 2 & 3 Assassin's Creed (series) Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 Batman Arkham series Battle Cats Battle chess Battle of the immortals Battlefield (series) Bejeweled Bioshock 1 and 2 Bladestorm Bloody roar(ps1) Blue Dragon Body Harvest Borderlands series - I have no clue how long, but long… Brave Frontier Breath of Fire Breath of Fire 3 Buck Rogers Countdown to Doomsday Burnout Paradise C9 Call of Money, Black holes II Candy Crush (LOL!!!!!) Castle Crashers Charades Checkers Chrono Trigger (SNES, PSX, DS) Chutes and ladders City of Heroes/Villains Civilization III, IV, V including expansions, DLCs and mods Civilization Revolution (console and app) Colony Wars 1-2 Command and Conquer Commander Keen Contra Cornhole (Yep, that's right) Crash Bandicoot Crimson Skies Crystal Saga Curse of the Azure Bonds Cursed Treasure 2 Dance Dance Revolution (series) Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight Darksider 1 & 2 DayZ DBZ Budokai (series) Dead Island Dead or Alive Deadpool Dead Rising Dead Space - I put 100 hours into the first game alone Defenders of the Crown Defiance Demon souls, dark souls, dark souls II - well over 900 hrs Deus Ex Devil May Cry Diablo Digimon World Dusk Doom and Doom 2 (oddly not 3) DOTA 1 And 2 Dr. Mario Dragon Age Dragon Realms Dragon Warrior Duck Hunt Dungeon Defenders Dynasty Warriors 5 E.T. Earth defense force - any Earthbound The Elder Scrolls (series) Elsword EVE Online Everquest The Evil Within (Just started 2 weeks ago) Excelsior Eye of the Beholder Series Fable series Fallout 3 Fallout New Vegas Far cry (including 3 but not limited to 3) - 250 hrs Farmville Fate of Resonance Faxanadu FIFA Fight Night Champion Final Fantasy (any ever made) Fire Emblem Sacred Stones & Shadow Dragon FlyFF Football Manager Forza (series) Free Lancer Freespace 2 Frogger Gary's Mod +/- 400 hours Gauntlet dark Legacy Gears of War (series) God of War (all) Golden Sun G-Police Gran Turismo 1 & 2 Grim Dawn GTA series (including Chinatown wars) - 300 hrs Guild Wars 2 Guitar Hero/Rockband (series) GunZ online Half-Life and the games in the Orange Box Halo (series) Hang man Hearts Heroes of Might and Magic 5 Heroes of Newearth Hopscotch Horseshoes (this too) Hungry hungry hippo Infamous Ivan Stewart's baja 1000 James Bond: Golden Eye James Bond: The World is Not Enough Journey (Atari 2600) J-RPG (any) Just Cause 2 Kingdom Hearts Kingdom of Amalur Reckoning Kingdom Rush 1 & 2 Knights & Dragons over 150+ hours(iOS game) League of Legends Leap frog Left 4 Dead Legend of Mana Lego Batman Lego Rock Raiders Lego Star Wars (all) Life Link Little Big Planet (each of them) Lord of the Dragons (Roughly 1850+ hours over 2 years) Lost Odyssey LOTR: Twin Towers the game (that co-op mode was fantastic!) Madden games (any especially older versions) Maple Story Mario 64 Mario Party (console and portable) Mario galaxy 1 and 2 Mario Kart 64 Marvel VS capcom Mass Effect (all) OH MY GAWD YES Masters of Orion and MOO2 MechWarrior 2-4 Medal of Honor Medal of Honor: Frontline Mercenaries 1 & 2 (which I just ironically realized has a better story than destiny, which is sad) Meridian 59 Metal Gear series Metro 2033 and last light - 100-125 hrs Mickey Thompson’s Off Road Racing game (name eludes me) Minecraft (sheesh does this guy live in a box?) Minesweeper Monopoly Monster Hunter Monster rancher Mortal Kombat (series) Mount & Blade MUDs (a couple, don't remember the names, easily logged hundreds of hours into both getting to tri av or SAV status) Mutant League Hockey Myself NCAA football (multiple) Need For Speed (series) Neverwinter series Ninja Gaiden Path of Exile Perfect Dark Phantasy Star Online 1 & 2 Pinball (that one that came with windows) Pitfall Planescape: Torment Pokemon (any) Pong Pools of Darkness Pools Of Radiance Portal 1/2 Punchout Quebert Ragnarok online 1 & 2 Rainbow Six 3: Ravenshield Rainbow Six Vegas Raptor Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal (those guns!) Red Alert (and subsequent expansions) Red Alert 2 (and subsequent expansions) Red Dead - 200 hrs Red Faction Resident Evil 5 Rift Rise of Nations Risk Rogue RUA series(rainbow unicorn attack) Runescape Rush N' Attack Saints Row Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe Sega- sonic games, aladdin, jungle book, nba jam Shadow of Mordor Shadowrun (Genesis, SNES, and 360) Shaia Shin Megami Tensei games Sid Meier's Pirates! Silkroad Sim City Smite Snake Snake Rattle & Roll Socom games - 300 hrs Sonic (1 & 2) Sorry Soul Caliber series Soul Edge Soul Sacrifice Space Invaders Spades Splatterhouse Splinter Cell series S.T.A.L.K.E.R series (with and w/o mods) - 1500 hrs at least Star Ocean 2 Star port Star Wars Star Wars KoToR 1 & 2 Starcraft Street fighter ex plus Streetfighter 2 Streets of Rage1-2 Super Mario (1-3) Super Mario 64 Super Mario Bros. Super Mario Bros. All-Stars Super Smash Bros. Supreme Commander and its expansion pack Forged Alliance (expansion that actually added shit tons of new content) well over 100 hours each. Symphony of the night Syndicate (original) Taboo Tales of Vesperia Team Fortress 2 Tecmo Super Bowl Tekken Tera Terraria Terror from the Deep Tetris The Last of Us The Legend of Dragoon The Settlers (series) The Witcher 1 & 2 Tic tac toe Tiddlywinks Tie Fighter Titanfall TMNT (arcade version) Torchlight 2 Total Dark Toukiden Trivial pursuit Twisted Metal Twisted metal series Two Dots UFO enemy unknown Ultima Online Vagrant Story Vendetta Online Vindictus Viva Piñata (Yes, really.) Walking Dead The Game (potentially stretching it here - maybe 50 hours?) War Thunder World of Warcraft Warframe Warhawk Watch Dogs Wild arms Wing Commander Series Wolfenstein (the old one) Wonderboy in Monsterland World of Tanks Xcom: Enemy Unknown and the expansion Enemy Within (also omfg yes) Xenosaga games X-Wing Yugioh capsule monster coliseum Yugioh duelist of the roses Yugioh Forbidden Memories Zelda (series) Zone 66

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  • Chaos legion, Lost Odyssey, Shadow Hearts. (Had a better story than destiny.)

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  • Bump for hundred hour justice!

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    • Had a few more. Freespace 1 Galactic Civilisations 1/2 Dune (Amiga) Turrican 1/2 (Amiga)

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    • It's odd how a developer would choose to ignore those people that put more time into a game than they possibly could, instead only listening to people that have less experience and more likely know less about the game

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      • You are an idiot

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        • Check, and mate.

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        • Edited by Two Nuhh: 10/31/2014 10:14:03 PM
          Mr. Ryan, 100 hours isn't shit and you know it. I put that kind of time into an old game called Mappy Land for the orignal NES when I was [b]FOUR[/b] f*cking years old. To add to the list (note: these games were played before I hit the age of 6. Each with over 100hrs played) -Mutant League Hockey -Sonic (1 & 2) -Super Mario (1-3) -Tetris -Faxanadu -Link -Contra -Snake Rattle & Roll -Streets of Rage (1-3) -Mortal Kombat And a couple dozen others. That was on the god damned NES (or Sega). Far less advanced consoles... And it's a surprise to you, Mr. Ryan, that negative feedback comes from players with over 100 hours? Admittedly, I have an unhealthy amount of time spent on Destiny. Has some of it been enjoyable? Absolutely. Has the majority of it been spent grinding through the mundane monotony that is Destiny? Sadly, it has indeed. Bottom line is, too much hype for such little content & replay value. Grind for this so you can grind for that. There is no difficulty to the game. There is cheese on every mission, every strike, and it especially plagues the Raid. All of the cheese demeans the purpose and point. The end-game is nothingness. It is when the player decides its the end game because there's no point in continuing on. The grind is for nothing because the loot means nothing- unless you want the game to be even easier than it already is. It takes no skill, no mental capacity to think critically, just time, and lots of it. Oh and luck... a metric f*ck-ton of luck. The artificial level-caps posed by the flawed RNG system... On and on and on. I'm done.

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          • Marvel VS capcom Dance dance revolution Farmville

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            • 100 hours? I have 15 hours of gameplay and 85 hours of grinding. If I could take all my 500+ unused gunparts and 700+ Hadronic essences I could build a main battle tank and really feel like a legend. Instead i have a Sparrow which seems to be the futures version of a Prius. At least I could do a driveby in a Prius.

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              • Harold's comment shows how tone deaf Bungie has become. Not a good trend.

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              • This reminds me of Jay Wilson's comment on Diablo 3. "You don't remember Diablo 2."

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                • any xenosaga was easily 100 hours with out doing EVERYTHING, kingdom hearts, the legend of dragoon, grand turismo

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                  • Edited by DesPaws: 11/1/2014 3:23:52 AM
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                  • Bump

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                  • Edited by Jubei2010: 10/31/2014 11:07:41 PM
                    I played the greatest first person shooter of modern times. Wait for it...wait for it...The Persian Gulf war I and II. Probably over 1000 hours.

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                  • Ultima Online. I've played that for over 16 years now.

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                  • Edited by D4rkFr4g: 10/31/2014 6:00:24 PM
                    I think you're missing the point. Out of all the games you've listed that you've played over a 100+ hours, how many of them did you dislike or hate and still played over 100+ hours?

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                    • [quote]Harold Ryan: It's so broad. When I read a lot of the feedback, and I see it's after playing for 100 hours, it's hard not to couch that in, well if you played the game for 100 hours... What other game do you play for 100 hours, right?[/quote] The vagueness is strong in this one.

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                    • Yeah bungee you butthole!!! 100 hours ain't shit!!! That's only two and half weeks of a full time job! If you went to college likely it's less than two weeks!!! I've logged 200 hours on Skyrim during one Christmas break! And I get laid!! Boom!

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                      • Im willing to bet if I showed my /played in everquest Mr. harold ryan would shit his pants.

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                        • BALDURS GATE 1 & 2. I have gazillion hours playing these two games. Hell im still playing them today!

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                          • YOu forgot zoo tycoon and rollercoaster tycoon

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                          • Harold Ryan: "We're building a sizeable team just to work on the live game. That group is continuing to get better at taking feedback from the community and building on patches and updates to the world." EuroGamer: "Can you speak about any of those game play changes in any detail?" Harold Ryan: "No." Why would they discuss changes to the game with EuroGamer when they don't even discuss them with their own "community"? Stop calling the players your "community" if they don't have any impact on what you decide to release. Stop hiding behind analytics and statistics and pretending like you are using them as the basis for how you plan your day. Harold, you have already decided to hack the game up into bits and pieces that you can sell back to us every other month. You have already decided that if your "community" figures out how to get through that content faster than you can sell it to us then you will drop the hammer, lest we run out of crap to grind and stop for a second to reflect on what a tremendous let down this game is.

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                            • Lmao Suck it Harold

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                            • Edited by N7Spartan: 10/31/2014 8:59:33 PM
                              The whole thing rather read as a stay on message. DLC has heaps that was worked on for 90 days? Buy it. The Exotic Bounty as insperation for DLC Story has me slightly worried If we're all sent through all the shared content of the DLC the shared strike and the PvP maps to tell the next bit of not explaining why we are doing this, or if there is any progress in victory. I'm not doing Heavy PvP bounties (100 void kills + death offset) But then I'm in excess of 100 hours so this opionion/feedback could be considered as irrelevent to Bungie.

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                              • Edited by N7Spartan: 10/31/2014 9:01:35 PM
                                So If 100 hours is too much time invested into Destiny to provide unbiased feedback to improve Destiny. Although it's means we've seen more of the overall game provided or examined/experienced bugs and things enough that they are bugs. If they have a 10 year plan that they want us to follow them on, with 8700+ hours in a year. Thats 87,000 hours a single player has access to their Destiny journey. So Bungie would rather us spend less then 100 hours on Destiny for 10 years and then our feed back would be considered valuable for their new IP? I'm Sorry if I replay games because for various reasons I get some of entertainment out of them. Apparently thats inflating my game time past 100 and making me a biased gamer that cannot provide an element of feedback that may contribute improving or evolving their overall product.

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