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Edited by ColdAtrophy: 11/3/2014 8:02:32 PM
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To Mr. Harold Ryan

[b]MAJOR UPDATE:[/b] Deej responded to me calling his attention to this thread in another thread. http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/76633207/0/0 It will probably get buried rather quickly because every time he posts, 1000 replies follow. Deej [quote]You weren't ignored. I read that. The point that Harold was making was that, when someone plays a game for 100 hours, you learn a lot. We've obviously created something you want to play. It's very obvious that you want to talk to us about how it can be better. When we stay focused on game feedback, good things can happen.[/quote] [b]EDIT: Please read the article I linked to before posting. I have been accused of taking his statement out of context, which I do not feel I did at all, and I want to make sure that no one feels like I mislead them. [/b] [quote]Harold Ryan: It's so broad. When I read a lot of the feedback, and I see it's after playing for 100 hours, it's hard not to couch that in, well if you played the game for 100 hours... What other game do you play for 100 hours, right?[/quote] This is not grounds for dismissing our feedback like you suggest. I'm calling you out. What games do we play for more than 100 hours? Since you don't seem to know of any, please allow me and my fellow gamers to educate you. Fellow Bungie.net users, please feel free to add to this list and/or tweet away @Bungie or @Destiny your ideas about how many other games you can put more than 100 hours into. I'll start. Morrowind Oblivion Skyrim Any CoD game Mass Effect 1 - 3 (I logged 400 hours on ME3's MP alone) Dragon Age Borderlands 1 Borderlands 2 Any Battlefield game (I personally have logged over 1200 hours between BF3 and BF4) Any Halo game Any Guitar Hero or Rockband Diablo 1-3 Star Wars: KoToR 1 & 2 There are many more. [b]MANY. MORE.[/b] [u]From responses to the OP:[/u] 1943 2048 Ace Combat 5 Aces High 2 Act Raiser Advanced Wars series on GBA, DS & emu 2000+ hours over a decade of play Age of Empires (series) Aion Alpha Protocol America's Army 2 Angband Angry Birds Anno 2070 (with and without the A.R.R.C. mod) APB ArmA 2 & 3 Assassin's Creed (series) Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 Batman Arkham series Battle Cats Battle chess Battle of the immortals Battlefield (series) Bejeweled Bioshock 1 and 2 Bladestorm Bloody roar(ps1) Blue Dragon Body Harvest Borderlands series - I have no clue how long, but long… Brave Frontier Breath of Fire Breath of Fire 3 Buck Rogers Countdown to Doomsday Burnout Paradise C9 Call of Money, Black holes II Candy Crush (LOL!!!!!) Castle Crashers Charades Checkers Chrono Trigger (SNES, PSX, DS) Chutes and ladders City of Heroes/Villains Civilization III, IV, V including expansions, DLCs and mods Civilization Revolution (console and app) Colony Wars 1-2 Command and Conquer Commander Keen Contra Cornhole (Yep, that's right) Crash Bandicoot Crimson Skies Crystal Saga Curse of the Azure Bonds Cursed Treasure 2 Dance Dance Revolution (series) Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight Darksider 1 & 2 DayZ DBZ Budokai (series) Dead Island Dead or Alive Deadpool Dead Rising Dead Space - I put 100 hours into the first game alone Defenders of the Crown Defiance Demon souls, dark souls, dark souls II - well over 900 hrs Deus Ex Devil May Cry Diablo Digimon World Dusk Doom and Doom 2 (oddly not 3) DOTA 1 And 2 Dr. Mario Dragon Age Dragon Realms Dragon Warrior Duck Hunt Dungeon Defenders Dynasty Warriors 5 E.T. Earth defense force - any Earthbound The Elder Scrolls (series) Elsword EVE Online Everquest The Evil Within (Just started 2 weeks ago) Excelsior Eye of the Beholder Series Fable series Fallout 3 Fallout New Vegas Far cry (including 3 but not limited to 3) - 250 hrs Farmville Fate of Resonance Faxanadu FIFA Fight Night Champion Final Fantasy (any ever made) Fire Emblem Sacred Stones & Shadow Dragon FlyFF Football Manager Forza (series) Free Lancer Freespace 2 Frogger Gary's Mod +/- 400 hours Gauntlet dark Legacy Gears of War (series) God of War (all) Golden Sun G-Police Gran Turismo 1 & 2 Grim Dawn GTA series (including Chinatown wars) - 300 hrs Guild Wars 2 Guitar Hero/Rockband (series) GunZ online Half-Life and the games in the Orange Box Halo (series) Hang man Hearts Heroes of Might and Magic 5 Heroes of Newearth Hopscotch Horseshoes (this too) Hungry hungry hippo Infamous Ivan Stewart's baja 1000 James Bond: Golden Eye James Bond: The World is Not Enough Journey (Atari 2600) J-RPG (any) Just Cause 2 Kingdom Hearts Kingdom of Amalur Reckoning Kingdom Rush 1 & 2 Knights & Dragons over 150+ hours(iOS game) League of Legends Leap frog Left 4 Dead Legend of Mana Lego Batman Lego Rock Raiders Lego Star Wars (all) Life Link Little Big Planet (each of them) Lord of the Dragons (Roughly 1850+ hours over 2 years) Lost Odyssey LOTR: Twin Towers the game (that co-op mode was fantastic!) Madden games (any especially older versions) Maple Story Mario 64 Mario Party (console and portable) Mario galaxy 1 and 2 Mario Kart 64 Marvel VS capcom Mass Effect (all) OH MY GAWD YES Masters of Orion and MOO2 MechWarrior 2-4 Medal of Honor Medal of Honor: Frontline Mercenaries 1 & 2 (which I just ironically realized has a better story than destiny, which is sad) Meridian 59 Metal Gear series Metro 2033 and last light - 100-125 hrs Mickey Thompson’s Off Road Racing game (name eludes me) Minecraft (sheesh does this guy live in a box?) Minesweeper Monopoly Monster Hunter Monster rancher Mortal Kombat (series) Mount & Blade MUDs (a couple, don't remember the names, easily logged hundreds of hours into both getting to tri av or SAV status) Mutant League Hockey Myself NCAA football (multiple) Need For Speed (series) Neverwinter series Ninja Gaiden Path of Exile Perfect Dark Phantasy Star Online 1 & 2 Pinball (that one that came with windows) Pitfall Planescape: Torment Pokemon (any) Pong Pools of Darkness Pools Of Radiance Portal 1/2 Punchout Quebert Ragnarok online 1 & 2 Rainbow Six 3: Ravenshield Rainbow Six Vegas Raptor Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal (those guns!) Red Alert (and subsequent expansions) Red Alert 2 (and subsequent expansions) Red Dead - 200 hrs Red Faction Resident Evil 5 Rift Rise of Nations Risk Rogue RUA series(rainbow unicorn attack) Runescape Rush N' Attack Saints Row Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe Sega- sonic games, aladdin, jungle book, nba jam Shadow of Mordor Shadowrun (Genesis, SNES, and 360) Shaia Shin Megami Tensei games Sid Meier's Pirates! Silkroad Sim City Smite Snake Snake Rattle & Roll Socom games - 300 hrs Sonic (1 & 2) Sorry Soul Caliber series Soul Edge Soul Sacrifice Space Invaders Spades Splatterhouse Splinter Cell series S.T.A.L.K.E.R series (with and w/o mods) - 1500 hrs at least Star Ocean 2 Star port Star Wars Star Wars KoToR 1 & 2 Starcraft Street fighter ex plus Streetfighter 2 Streets of Rage1-2 Super Mario (1-3) Super Mario 64 Super Mario Bros. Super Mario Bros. All-Stars Super Smash Bros. Supreme Commander and its expansion pack Forged Alliance (expansion that actually added shit tons of new content) well over 100 hours each. Symphony of the night Syndicate (original) Taboo Tales of Vesperia Team Fortress 2 Tecmo Super Bowl Tekken Tera Terraria Terror from the Deep Tetris The Last of Us The Legend of Dragoon The Settlers (series) The Witcher 1 & 2 Tic tac toe Tiddlywinks Tie Fighter Titanfall TMNT (arcade version) Torchlight 2 Total Dark Toukiden Trivial pursuit Twisted Metal Twisted metal series Two Dots UFO enemy unknown Ultima Online Vagrant Story Vendetta Online Vindictus Viva Piñata (Yes, really.) Walking Dead The Game (potentially stretching it here - maybe 50 hours?) War Thunder World of Warcraft Warframe Warhawk Watch Dogs Wild arms Wing Commander Series Wolfenstein (the old one) Wonderboy in Monsterland World of Tanks Xcom: Enemy Unknown and the expansion Enemy Within (also omfg yes) Xenosaga games X-Wing Yugioh capsule monster coliseum Yugioh duelist of the roses Yugioh Forbidden Memories Zelda (series) Zone 66

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  • Hey Harry we are still here, Even when you open your eyes from your deep sleep. We are Legend remember?

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    • Maybe you should tweet it to him.

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      • Your game sold on your name alone bungie. Wait till the master chief collection comes out. I am willing to put money on the fact that destiny player numbers will drop by at least half.

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      • Edited by xX SOLFIRE Xx: 10/31/2014 8:19:46 PM
        Since i think this game is most similar to a borderlands type game i will compare my time to that... i have 250ish hours on destiny across all my characters, deleted and current. On borderlands 2 i had 200+ hours playtime just on one siren. That doesnt include my other 2 sirens or my 4 other characters that were max rank. This was over a long period of time of course but that should be one example how 100 hours isnt very much. Oh and i still have stuff i never finished on my siren but i dont feel like i am missing much on destiny after 100 hours let alone being 200 in Edit: portal could be in that list too. I spent lots of time in both the original and number 2 single and co-op

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        • Bump. I instantly thought that this was a backhand to the gaming community. What a clown. So typical of a leader out of touch with the customer base. A fish rots from the head.

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          • THIS. POST. IS. SO. O. P.

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          • Edited by Josholomue: 11/1/2014 12:05:55 AM
            It's funny because I finished all playable content in this game in less than a day of play time. That's not 500million worth of game haha. Just because people have logged more hours doesn't mean that's the reason they're bored I mean, there are perfectionists and collectors looking to acquire every piece of armour etc. normal gamers are finished after 15-20 hours of gameplay. The story is about 10 hours if you're just going through casually, then there's grinding to 26, then the raid and you're finished. Bungie should be happy people stayed for that long, it's not because there's enough content to support those hours, it's only because people are hoping for more. I've played many games longer than this, that cost significantly less.

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            • Edited by Gunship: 10/31/2014 11:52:24 PM
              He obviously hasn't actually taken the time to read what we are saying. What a tool. Guess thats the final word then Bungie is frackin clueless and won't be pulling their heads out of their asses any time soon. Rot in Hell Bungie. BTW The reason we all played over 100 hours is because you made such a shit gane that we HAVE TO in order to rank up our crappy equipment. This game has THE WORST effort to reward/satisfaction ratio of ANY GAME I HAVE EVER PLAYED. At first I thought the Bungietards would fix the game, im mean they had to know what shit they sold us right???

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            • I've played every game I've owned since 2008 for at least 100 hours . bf3 I know I had well over a 1000 hours in . I've got somewhere around 400 hours into destiny. Who cares fix your damn game .

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            • Bf2 @ 1200 hours

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            • i use to eat slep and breath Minecraft i would hate to imagine how much time i have put in that game probaly 1000hrs

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              • Just adding some I didn't see on your list. Not all of them are even good. Heroes of Might and Magic 5 Masters of Orion and MOO2 Alpha Protocol Rise of Nations Warcraft 2 Defenders of the Crown Rogue Commander Keen Doom and Doom 2 (oddly not 3) Wolfenstein (the old one) Streetfighter 2 Excelsior Mortal Kombat Tekken Punch Out Duck Hunt Syndicate Rush N' Attack Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe Wing Commander Act Raiser Sim City Dynasty Warriors 5 MUDs (a couple, don't remember the names, easily logged hundreds of hours into both getting to tri av or SAV status) Raptor Zone 66 1943 Dragon Warrior I'm sure there are more I can't think of, and know of at least a few that I simply can't remember the names of.

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                • kingdom hearts 1-2 i guess

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                  • Borderlands 1 and 2 Dark souls 1 and 2 Call of Money, Black holes II The elder scrolls IV, Oblivion The Elder ScrollS V, Skyrim Halo 3 Halo: Reach Resident Evil 5 Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag Minecraft Viva Piñata (Yes, really.) Left 4 Dead I play all my games pretty hard.

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                    • Edited by JaegarMaxim: 11/1/2014 9:22:20 AM
                      Age of Empires (all) Mario Kart 64 Super Mario 64 Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time God of War (all) Borderlands (all) OH MY GAWD YES Mass Effect (all) LOTR: Twin Towers the game (that co-op mode was fantastic!) Lego Star Wars (all) 2048 Walking Dead The Game (potentially stretching it here - maybe 50 hours?) Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal (those guns!) Halo (all) Warcraft 1-3 Etc.

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                      • Tiddlywinks Checkers Battle chess Minesweeper Myself Risk Chutes and ladders Sorry Trivial pursuit Spades Hearts Life Hungry hungry hippo Pit fall E.T. Frogger Charades Monopoly Hang man Tic tac toe Hopscotch Leap frog

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                        • Edited by Nemesis Black: 10/31/2014 10:05:52 PM
                          Planescape: Torment, Freespace 2, MechWarrior 2-4, Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight, Crimson Skies, Syndicate (original), Streets of Rage1-2, Colony Wars 1-2, G-Police, Ace Combat 5, Wing Commander Series, X-Wing, Tie Fighter, S.T.A.L.K.E.R and Buck Rogers Countdown to Doomsday ( a sci-fi RPG with player-controled starship travel and combat over the whole Solar System) - from which you should've learned some -blam!-ing lessons, Harold Ryan you -blam!

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                          • Some that arent on the list that I played. Meridian 59, Ultima Online, Wing Commander 3/4, Neverwinter series, The Witcher 1/2, Wonderboy in Monsterland, The Settlers, Journey (Atari 2600) Pools Of Radiance, Curse of the Azure Bonds, Pools of Darkness, Eye of the Beholder Series, UFO enemy unknown, Terror from the Deep etc..........

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                            • I see that somebody has already put Warframe on the list, that person speaks the truth, I just looked at my playtime for that and it said I've played it for the equivalent of 98 days. that's 2,352 hours. I played the original counter-strike for more than 9000 hours (lol) and I've played a few other games for multiple thousand hours (mmo's most specifacally) HOLY CRAP I've played tons of video games XD Well at least I've managed to keep my social life.

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                              • Not to mention in other games I keep playing after 100+ hours because I'm having a blast. Not because I've gotten unlucky with loot drops and am still only lvl 26. The light system is garbage and needs to go. Maybe if you actually put a decent amount of content in the game you wouldn't need these light levels that rely solely on getting lucky enough to have good items drop.

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                                • PAC Man. Yeh, in 30 or so years I have probably racked up 100 hours easy. And then just about every game on that list! Especially fallout! Impressive!

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                                  • Resident evil 5 Ff14 arr Defiance Batman arkham asylum & City Lego batman I have to say me3 multiplayer again soooo awesome :) pretty much got the rest covered

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                                    • Edited by GhilKlinWar: 11/1/2014 12:52:21 PM
                                      [quote]What other game do you play for 100 hours, right?[/quote] I nearly spit out coffee when I read that. I spent hundreds of hours just MODDING games like Empire, Doom, NWN, CIV (series), and several other games - AFTER I had put thousands of hours into them. A hundred hours must be the average game life the developers had estimated for a player to take before getting bored and leaving it after having played the released game, hence his reference. In that regard he is probably in target.

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                                      • Yeah there's lots of games out there But I'm guessing most of the people on this forum have played alot of destiny I mean I played hundreds of hours of Mario bros 3 but that doesn't mean I would ever devote that much time to it again

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                                        • When I buy a book, I pay for the entire story in that book. Not half of it now, a quarter of it here, another fraction there. You shouldn't have to figure out how you're going to tell a story AFTER you've already sold a small portion of it. Dammit Bungie.

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                                          • Vendetta Online and Age of Empires

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