Raids, Weekly Nightfalls, Heroics, they are all [b]far[/b] from impossible to complete "legitimately." If you seriously cant complete the raid or the infamous Phogath encounter without some sort of exploit, then you are not good at video games to be honest. Using the game mechanics (jumping, invisibility, gun types, grenades, supers, grouping, ....) gives you all the tools you need and more. [b]If the game wasn't challenging, what would be the point.[/b] It's pretty ridiculous that people are throwing fits about Atheon cheese getting patched, but even more so, the random teleporting. [b]The endgame material,[/b] at least in my opinion, [b]should present a CHALLENGE.[/b] That being said, if there is an exploit in the game, I will most likely utilize it. If it provides a quick, easy way to do something then I'm all for it, but you won't see me whining when it gets patched because it is obviously not supposed to be in the game.