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**UPDATE**"THEORY" 6th and 7th chest discussion.

We are attempting to figure out how to make the 6th and 7th chest spawn so far we have tried clearing the entrance without a pretorian entering a sync plate but nothing happened we will be retrying on hard mode tonight to confirm. (5th chest confirmed can get in normal or hard mode by preventing the templar from teleporting) 7th chest has speculation on how to get it whether it is clear the gorgon maze without being seen on hard mode or speed runs etc. We will be attempting all of these tonight on hard mode to test these theories. Any ideas and theories from players would be helpful we want to find these and show everyone else how to as well. Everyone mocked us and called us liars when we said we said there was a 5th chest and BAM! confirmed! Live stream http://www.twitch.tv/bowl_cruise Live stream http://www.twitch.tv/talkingheed311 **UPDATE** CHECKLIST FOR 6TH AND 7TH CHECKLIST FOR 6TH CHEST: Have literally tried everything and looked everywhere... The last thing left to try I will have to wait a week to try and if any of you ever played halo you know why ;) Follow me on twitch "Bowl_Cruise" when I get 250 followers I will be giving away a game of the winners choice!! 500 followers I will be randomly selecting someone to receive a new Turtle Beach Headset! So hit that follow button!!

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  • Edited by Luxord: 11/5/2014 7:46:14 AM
    The true 2nd chest is located in the alternate route to the Templar. The 7th is found after defeating Atheon. The Vex Mythoclast is involved. Finding all 7 chests will bring about the end screen. Below is the a theory based on a conversation that I overheard while in a group chat with a certain clan. You know that teleporter that everyone is talking about? Well it teleports you to the 7th chest. Why do you think there is no end screen? Because once you beat Atheon, there is a way to go back to the teleporter. Once there, it will be open and be ready to use ONLY IF you found chests 1-6 and have met the final requirement related to the Atheon boss fight. Upon opening this chest, you will be brought to the end screen. This final area where the chest is located is the true "vault". Why would they not include a end screen? They obviously didn't forget about the end screen. It's just that most of us have actually never 100% completed the raid, warranting a end screen. The 6th is actually technically the 2nd as states above, and is located along the alternate route to the Templar. Also, the vex mythoclast is involved somehow. My guess, kill Atheon while only using the Vex Mythoclast. Why? Because everyone in this fireteam of 6 had it equipped after the raid. Coincidence? Maybe. After reading some of the posts below, much of what I said has already been discussed. But I hope some of this information will help anyone who has the means to find these two chests.

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    • Has anyone noticed having fatebringer or foil equipped you don't get detained on Templar, and when oracles are out some water ripple effects on the screen?

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      • Edited by Jorgelucasds: 12/6/2014 4:41:34 AM
        I was doing VoG today when i had an idea but my friends didnt want to try any further… At oracles there are seven phases + a pre-phase that would be just to show where they spawn, but i dont think so.. You CAN kill the oracles at the pre-phase(you got a one second window to shoot each). What if we destroy all the seven oracles at the pre-phase?? Anyone wanna try it later at level 26? 3 ice breaker shots takes an oracles down, we just gotta be quick

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        • Not letting pretorians take plates in the beginning doesnt spawn a chest we searched everywhere

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          • Has anyone found the final venus grimore card? If so can you post it?

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            • Iv been raiding since the day the vault opened and 3 times a week both difficulties since then. Me and my raid team talk about the hidden treasures of the vault all the time but have made little progress to actually finding anything of value but maybe these thought can help others.. The gorgons: the only thing you don't kill in he vault? Tepmlar, gatekeepers, atheon and adds. Your damn near required to kill everything in the vault why is it that you can kill gorgons but you don't have to kill them to progress? My team tried killing all of them we got up to 3 a few times until we split up... Most of my raid team has corrective measures and are lvl 30s so we decided to split up and kill we got 5 down before what is normally the invincible one. He wasn't invincible when the others weren't around, sadly he spotted one of our members before we could regroup. Haven't gotten to that point again. maybe just a fluke. The second path: As most of you know for "the trials of kabr" there is a second path below the 1st ascendent chest. Why is there a second path if there's nothing down there? The lights... The lights is a big one iv seen on forums how there are red lights that are all threw the second path that sometime are blue? Personally iv never gotten them to turn blue and we've tried everything (not allowing a plate to be captured, nobody dying and not killing any praetorians) nothing changed. Possible dead end. The stairs: This is one i personally believe has something to do with the next chest. Has anyone noticed that in total there are 5 sets of stairs that appear? The normal set that splits into 2, the set down and to the right, and the set that takes you to the other time gate on the island. Now this is where I'm interested cause 9 out of 10 times the 5th set does not spawn but when it does it takes you right to the gate and the gate has a faint glow. Why? What triggers the 5th set to spawn? What opens the gate? And the last one. The relic: Why can it cleanse a gorgons gaze if at no point in the game are you required to bring the relic in the maze? And if the relic despawns after the boss fights? Iv seen videos of YouTube of people taking it into the maze and of one performing a cleans on a gorgons gaze. Maybe just the games code maybe the secret to truly being he vault. Let me know what you think these are just what iv seen and done myself to see if anybody can help put together the puzzle.

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              • I'd like to postulate that maybe there are only 5 raid chests, at least for now. I think the significance of their being 5 golden chests on each planet may be being overlooked. I'm open to other suggestions, and by no means am I looking to draw the ire of anyone. I just figure it is worth considering.

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                • There's one during the platforming part. You get though it at the end there's a floating island that has a chest.

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                  • Ill be steaming tonight on twitch searching around and doing nightfall/weekly. Stream will start around 745 EST. LEVEL 30 WARLOCK. Going to search alot in the cave. Xb1. Gt is i3ishDoYouFeliz www.twitch.tv/i3ishDoYouFeliz

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                  • For anyone saying that there is not any other chests to find or that we are wasting our time remember the following: -For all other missions: -When its beaten the "new mission" mark (exclamation mnark within a diamond) goes away - when you scroll over the mission it will not have rewards described (i.e. Armor upgrade, Raid Gear, Unknown rewards) - when you get to the end of the mission the timer takes you out to stats/rewards screen For VoG None of the above happens leading me to believe that there is still SOMETHING in the Vault that needs attention, I don't know if it is 1, 2, or 5 chests left but if all the same rules apply to the vault as they do for every other mission, strike, daily it must be the same here, agree?

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                    • I bet the vex is what we need for 6th and 7th chest. In the grimoire section it said that its from some far flung corner of space and time, mysteriously for for human hands. Its true purpose unknown. (I know his may not be word for word quote but this part is important. Maybe foreshadowing?!?....) but it may reveal itself in time! May reveal itself in time!!! Time portals, future and past! Something to do with the portals?! Dont go all 21 on me here! What are our options!? Equip only raid weapons, mythoclast being your exotic, how many raid weapons do we have!? Hand canon, assault rifle, pulse rifle, scout, mytho clast. Am i missing one? Fusion rifle, sniper rifle, shot gun Rocket launcher, machine gun. So we get the 4 mains! And 2 mythoclasts!? 2 of each secondary and 3 of each heavy! Has anyone tried to keep the portals open after we get times vengeance?! Shoot the mythoclasts into them!? Or each person with the mythoclast walks into the portals!? If they can even be opened? I believe it has something to do with going into the portals. Because "it may reveal Itself in time."

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                    • Edited by BRMC Apollo: 11/30/2014 5:08:59 PM
                      In The Junction there is a large energy beam shooting from within the structure. Could it be related to the Templar?

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                    • The raid weapons are important somehow. We know Vision of confluence has a vision enducing effect when fired near the confluxes in the Templar section. What do the others do? Atheons epilogue must be important possibly after defeating atheon? Corrective measure could be linked to the gorgons gaze? Pure speculation but does anyone else feel they must be important??

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                      • have you guys read the grimier cards for the Gordons it says they need a corrective measure so maybe what im thinking is u need to kill a Gordon with a corrective measure and get through without being spoted on hard go to the portal outside the glass throw and then try to see if the jumping puzzle spawns

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                      • My clan is doing an exploration run thru the vog today or tomorrow. I will keep these theories in mind and post some feedback on them

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                        • Oh my god. It irritates me how people in the YouTube video brought the relic to the gorgon and tried to cleanse it -_-. I think this is what you have to do since its ties with the mythology of Perseus. You get the relic into the gorgons room then once you get seen cleanse JUST YOURSELF. Then see if the gorgon will kill itself since it will reflect it. Just how Perseus used his mirror shield to defeat medusa I think.

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                          • Bungie dev team has the last laugh at people who waste all this time in a half assed raid for something that may or may not exist.

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                            • Edited by hgzdemonic: 11/21/2014 4:54:32 PM
                              I believe their are more chest in the vog I've even read alot of theories ... I believe theirs chest that spawns at the vex gate right before aetheon the only idea I haven't read or seen maybe for that chest to spawn is jumping all the disappearing platforms in order or even a particular order , in every raid I've done nobody I mean nobody ever does the hole thing just a thought,

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                              • So the raid weapons all have specific names maybe there is something in there with that. Atheon's Epilogue - An epilogue is a section or speech at the end of a book or play that serves as a comment on or a conclusion to what has happened. Vision of Confluence - A confluence is the junction of two rivers, especially rivers of approximately equal width (rivers may be representative of the time "streams") Maybe using these (or others) in certain ways...A stretch but hey.....

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                                • what i will say, is that in the jumping puzzle, behind the second set of platforms is a giant pillar, about halfway down, on the vex gate side is a teensy cave, now it was empty when we visited it (bladedanced across) but what if you dropped from the cave (alt path) down there after taking the two previous alt paths?

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                                  • Has anyone tried exploring the tops of the shards in the templar room after the fight I've managed to get up there I didn't see anything but wasn't really looking and wasn't on perfect run anyway

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                                    • I am 80% sure that the 6th chest spawns somewhere while doing the flawless raider normal mode and the 7th somewhere after atheon flawless raider on hard mode.

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                                      • Iv been raiding since the day the vault opened and 3 times a week both difficulties since then. Me and my raid team talk about the hidden treasures of the vault all the time but have made little progress to actually finding anything of value but maybe these thought can help others.. The gorgons: the only thing you don't kill in he vault? Tepmlar, gatekeepers, atheon and adds. Your damn near required to kill everything in the vault why is it that you can kill gorgons but you don't have to kill them to progress? My team tried killing all of them we got up to 3 a few times until we split up... Most of my raid team has corrective measures and are lvl 30s so we decided to split up and kill we got 5 down before what is normally the invincible one. He wasn't invincible when the others weren't around, sadly he spotted one of our members before we could regroup. Haven't gotten to that point again. maybe just a fluke. The second path: As most of you know for "the trials of kabr" there is a second path below the 1st ascendent chest. Why is there a second path if there's nothing down there? The lights... The lights is a big one iv seen on forums how there are red lights that are all threw the second path that sometime are blue? Personally iv never gotten them to turn blue and we've tried everything (not allowing a plate to be captured, nobody dying and not killing any praetorians) nothing changed. Possible dead end. The stairs: This is one i personally believe has something to do with the next chest. Has anyone noticed that in total there are 5 sets of stairs that appear? The normal set that splits into 2, the set down and to the right, and the set that takes you to the other time gate on the island. Now this is where I'm interested cause 9 out of 10 times the 5th set does not spawn but when it does it takes you right to the gate and the gate has a faint glow. Why? What triggers the 5th set to spawn? What opens the gate? And the last one. The relic: Why can it cleanse a gorgons gaze if at no point in the game are you required to bring the relic in the maze? And if the relic despawns after the boss fights? Iv seen videos of YouTube of people taking it into the maze and of one performing a cleans on a gorgons gaze. Maybe just the games code maybe the secret to truly being he vault. Let me know what you think these are just what iv seen and done myself to see if anybody can help put together the puzzle.

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                                      • Has anyone fully explored the tunnel underneath the first chest after the spire opens the initial door?

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                                      • I have been reading this forum quite often and have attempted many of the theories with my team and some I have done and others I have not been able to do. Yet the other day I was able to trigger Times Vengeance well after the Atheon fight, do not know if this has any affect, but maybe you have to do something after you get it after Atheon?

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                                        • it easy kill all the gorgons . When one of them die all there power is spilt among all the others once all the power is in one spot it a new mini boss fight. gorgon's eye in mythology is a weapons after all.

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