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Edited by Construct Zero:
10/24/2014 12:01:55 PM
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Poll to get rid of PVP to focus on PVE as it was advertised!
^This was an old poll I made before the release of the game. They didn't seem to listen back then.
Yup PVP is killing the game one bad patch at a time.
For those saying both Bungie already proved they can't do both.
69% don't want PVP to take away from PVE and rather see it removed! 6:58am still going strong! 10/24/14
31% will be on Call of Dooty in two weeks...
#DeeJ #DeeJ_BNG
To the general PVP populist that says it's because we suck:
See this is your issue. This is why you're toxic. You "assume" we want PVP gone because we suck at it. This is strait up false. We want it gone because players like you are what makes up the majority of its community as illustrated here clearly. We don't suck we just don't care to fight the same tiny maps vs tbagging little kids all day. All the PVP whines have effected the PVE environment I was fine staying in, now that that has happened I'm here to get rid of the issue that is PVP.
FYI Halo was PVE focused! PVP was an afterthought and only lan.
ONI was PVE only...
Also, so far every dude that has claimed I sucked at the game PVP/PVE in this thread hasn't completed the hard mode raid!
I've been a fan longer than halo 2-3 which is where I bet your PVP spouting selfs came from.
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Edited by GalaxySpider: 11/2/2014 11:36:29 PMYour whole arguments are totally weird and illogical. Halo 1 story was a typical super-soldier-kills-mad-aliens-and-saves-humanity. Without it's multiplayer, Bungie massively improved with Halo 2, Halo wouldn't be the game it is right now. Especially Halo 3 was mostly known for its rich multiplayer, surely NOT because of its story which isn't even on par with story heavy games like Last of Us. As if it is the PvP players fault why BUNGIE can't balance a game well. They obviously can't even change the stats of guns seperatly, for PvE and/or PvP. Now they are upgrading the attack value for the VexM, making it the first gun with more than 300 attack, clearly showing how desperate they try to please the people, because, to me, the game engine only allow global changes to the weapon stats for weapon classes. That's sound more like faulty game design (it was MORE than obvious that the VexM would be OP in PvP....so why even making it that strong in the first place and letting it that way beyond release of the game?), not to mention that you can even bring exotic gear into PvP which, I personally, wouldn't allow, so the exotics remain really powerful PvE guns, just like you people want. Bungie is listening to the PvP base because right now that's the only non-repetitive activity you can play. They simply can't add, let's say, new story missions or PvE content cauz Activision surely does not allow that. And they only nerf everything in PvE because people reach the endgame content too fast. Because of the games extremely limited content, for such game, they are afraid of newcomers experiecing and achieving everything in like 1 week. Now they change everything to make you play even more. And yes, that's cheap. And it has nothing to do with somones feedback. The Atheon teleport stuff....of course it wasn't "an issue". It was something you had to discover, just like how the relic works and in general the whole Raid. And now, after a few days knewbies can be carried trough the raid, getting endgame content for basically doing nothing. OF COURSE Bungie suddenly says "fixed an issue with Atheon not teleporting blah blah". Of course that's why they also nerfed the loot caves. They know their game has little to offer, and that is why all this is happening. It's no ones fault here. Simply Bungie's, trying to cover the games low content. And really, they couldn't care less what the PvE and PvP players think at this point. Just like you, the PvE players who complain about RNG loot, the PvP base has a goddamn right to give feedback when it comes to balance, cauz balance is the core in a PvP mode. There is nothing else. There are no quests, bosses etc here. So what remains is the balance factor. Why is that(!) a problem? Becuse it effects the PvE? Well, that's Bungies problem. As game developers and after so many Halo games, they should know by now how to work with feedback. "We" ruin the game? Nonono, Bungie is simply not capeable of giving correct support for MMO like games. So please blame Bungie, not the people who want their favourite part of this game right. Because that's exactly what you want as well. So I completely disagree with taking PvP out because currently nothing effects. Activision, such a huge and rich publisher and Bungie, a well known studio should have all the resources of the world to offer both sides a great experience. Making a game as a studio who recently lost/fired two big "heads", and that was before the game came out (and that also was before PvP players could even get their hands on that game) can't go well. You blaming a part of the game and its player base because that's the only thing you see. The game became what it is now because of massive internal problems, stupid last minute changes, and Activisions idiotic contract with DLC (which also is Bungies fault cauz they decided which content should be cut). And you are really going to tell me that it is the fault of the PvP?.. please think again. Cutting the PvP right now wouldn't change a damn thing about: - DLC plans - PvE nerfs to stretch the limited content (just look what the upcoming DLC will add...its pathetic. YAY!!! a new bounty vendor!!! Prepare for more doing the same stuff over and over again).
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I completely agree with you, and even though I come from cod roots, I enjoy the PvE experience far more. For those of you who tell me I am bad at PvP, just take a look at my stats yourself.
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I don't think they should "get rid of pvp" but focus more on pve like advertised! They did say it was gonna be more of a pve game but latest updates disagree
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Edited by Krungel: 11/2/2014 10:22:41 PMI'm sure every halo fan has been halo fans since the first. And pvp in halo was always fun, the entire game was fun. Anyway, could you make a third option? I don't want pvp removed, but I would like for bungie to listen to the pve community more. I've seen some great pve feedback and suggestions. But these forums are poisoned by the cod kids and the nerfers. Its annoying all I see is complaining then people boasting to bungie that they will leave for call of duty. Then there's these immature console wars.. these awesome ideas never get to see the light of day because these bitches..
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They shouldn't outright get rid of pvp, I have fun times there occasionally, but they do need to throw pve a bone
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4 RepliesNo, don't remove the PvP! I'm not a "CoD noob" as many would say; I just like the PvP. I agree the nerfs shouldn't effect PvE, but getting rid of PvP is a horrible solution.
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1 ReplyI suck at PVP and prefer my co-op PVE, I think that has a lot to with my age. I don't have the testosterone I used to have...lol. For the most part I do not like PVP, but I do enjoy going to PVP once in a blue moon to mix things up a bit. I wouldn't want to see it gone entirely even with as frustrating as it is for me. I think they need to seperate the two completely. They have iron banner if they want to have their PVE/PVP infusion. It seems like an obvious fix to me.
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I always click on this just to see if I can vote again. Shutdown PvP please
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1 Replytell me, how often do you get railed on in PvP by players like me? six times a day? five? or did you quit because it was too hard?
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I left PVP for good about a day ago, and I'm not regretting a single second of it!
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They should make it where you carry a primary and a secondary. Three guns is too much because it causes people to take advantage of shotguns and rockets way too often...
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I voted PvE because it's all I play unless I have a PvP Exotic bounty. They COULD keep both if they'd stop screwing our weapons just because people cry that they can't beat someone who has that weapon in PvP. Do shotguns have any use whatsoever in PvE? I've fired a shotgun IRL and it destroyed everything within about 10 metres, in this game something is more than a metre away it just stands there, laughing at you. Now I'm seeing people crying about scout rifles being too effective at mid range, when it's a mid range weapon! PvP is definitely ruining it for the rest of us the way things are going.
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What needs to be done is maybe lmplement pvp into pve, like being able to challenge ramdom gaurdians, maybe wager gear in a 3 out of 5 battle or even like a pvp zone where your teammates are from you factions
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How about instead of focusing on either of those they focus on making the servers stable so people don't get booted to the start menu while trying to go to the tower like I was twice back to back this morning. That's the main issue. Everything else comes secondary. Servers need to be fixed asap or this game will be unplayable. Then there won't BE a pvp or pve. There will be nothing.
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3 Replies[quote] FYI Halo was PVE focused! PVP was an afterthought and only lan. [/quote] Yeah but halo found its legs in pvp got its huge player base because of pvp... The pve and story weren't very good imo (rage if you will) and everyone keeps saying how nerfed auto rifles takes away from pve... But how? Making it so you used scout rifles and pulse rifles more? Seems to be as intended to me if this game dident have pvp to break up the monotony of the same strikes and same bountys same parole mission this game would of floped 5xs harder.. Now I geuss you can theory craft what ever you will if they never focused on pvp in the first place.. But I believe the game would of turned out a lot different
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11 RepliesIt's kinda funny that you want Bungie to cut out a whole part of the game when people are already b1tching about a lack of content.
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PVp can stay bit I don't like...
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2 RepliesPvP is fine. Its enjoyable, frustrating at times but its fun. I think Bungie has their hands tied a bit. There is a reason some things never made it into the game, whether timing or Activision pulled the plug on some content, that remains to be seen. They are doing the best they can. Activision only cares about money hence the almost yearly releases of the Cod franchise, I can honestly see, that maybe most likely why content was cut then made into DLC. With all that said what else does Bungie have to bank on? Pvp. It keeps us playing, it keeps our desire to be a legend satiated(for the time being anyway) and it takes us away from the constant grind that is PvE. Just give the game some time. Adding things into a server based game is only a patch away, as is removing them. I hope and feel that once Bungie makes enough money on destiny they will roll out new content more rapidly and for free, minus huge expansions obviously. It wouldn't take much to change some of the things that need to be changed, but to request they change an aspect of the game because you don't like it, won't get it changed. That's what a lot the posts are on here. Its sad.
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2 RepliesEdited by Delegirous: 10/27/2014 9:04:29 PMBwahahaha.... you are straight* up out of your mind and dellusional if you think Bungie will drop PvP from the game. I can only pray the only reason you see this is reasonable is you are a troll. On a side bar, it is interesting the hypocrisy in chastising what you assume is every pvp player's opinion of pvers, then turn around and do it yourself... Edit: also as to your assertion as to prove you dont suck, and your hardmode completion etc. Anyone looking at your raid Hx can tell you cheesed it. For the recorded bragging about beating HM, then seeing you did it with only 3 ppl does not impress anyone... especially a pvper that has beat HM straight. /facepalm
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yes please just dump pvp. lets destiny be only pve. pvp is ruining destiny. all the nerfs from pvp cry babies hurt and weaken pve. take pvp out of destiny its not why ppl bought destiny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yep feel the same can careless about killing GUARDIANS
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They don't need to get rid of it to focus on PvE. They could just keep it as is, release the already planned DLC maps and call it a day. I would prefer more attention to PvE on their part in general though.
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2 RepliesWah wah wah my mythoclast sucks now in pve. It's not a pve game with no story you -blam!-ing ignorant prick self entitled little kid who thinks bungie should only catre you because you're not good at PvP. There is no story and the loot system doesn't make you progress. The only thing that brings variety to this game is PvP in the first place. But don't worry. Keep not one shorting goblins cause your cry baby overpowered ass gun from.pushing atheon off the edge is nerfed
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23 RepliesIt's a good thing that professional game developers don't alter their creative vision based on forum polls that amount to little more than self entitled hissy fits. Even I spend most of my time in PvE, but to use that as some manner of justification to segregate or even remove the Crucible is reprehensible. Your foolishness is only overshadowed by your ignorance.
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1 ReplyPVE is what this game needs it doesn't need a lot of pvp in it. But a lot of MMO'S do have a lot off PvP in them.
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6 RepliesOk so reading the comments and your post, it's clear to me that you really only enjoy the PvE aspect, which is fine. As for others they really enjoy PvP. Again, no problem. Then there's a hand full of people who enjoy both aspects equally, which is where I fall. I 100% love the opportunity to join my friends run through some strikes and raid the vault every week. Getting into a patrol and finding items needed to upgrade my gear is awesome to me. However, all the positive also brings a negative. It turns into a grind fest after 3-4 days. The crucible is away to break that up. My only issue is that throughout all of this post you constantly come off negative towards those who disagree with you and are frankly, being a major dick to people. You don't like PvP we get it. No big deal. No need to be a douche bag to those who do enjoy it.
