Sounds like more handouts.... put gauranteed reward and people will just gimp it to get handouts. As is, the systems broke... theres enough lvl 28s due to them farming the queens items for shards early on...and more 29s after they started glitching atheon, and even more yet so...from loot caving. F this. Reduce the drop rate for rares... demote all exotics to legendary status.... and restart the loot rare/legendary/ exotic rate... These crybabies get enough handouts.

Kind of wish Bungie would just adopt Reaper of Souls, Realm Reborn, Borderlands 2, or WoW's loot system. Honestly, any system but their own.

good idea but this is not what "bungie" had in mind when they made the raid. what bungie wants the raid to be is a cluster-blam!- that no one know what they are doing when they get teleported. then once you complete the raid they want to reward you with a shitbrown ship that adds nothing to the game.

yes except the mytho, sparrow, and ship should stay exclusive to hard

What is even the point of giving you a sparrow with a high chance to blow your balls off because it can explode, a loading screen and a shader you already have for the most difficult content in the game. I don't feel rewarded getting this crap, I feel insulted. Who even makes a vehicle with the potential to kill you rather than doing its job as a vehicle!? Moving on. I think ascended shards and energy should be a guaranteed reward to complement gear or weapons. These should constitute the loot table for the raid. I believe your point system would be perfect for aesthetic items like the mark, bond or cape. Hell maybe some people actually want the ballbreaker or loading screen and can buy these with the points. With regards to future raids, same deal. Gear and weapons from the raid itself, points to buy fluff you may like to have, but would hate to get instead of gear or weapons.

I don't mind how the drop is for the VoG now, but I really like this idea

This is exactly the same system as any MMORPG. I don't care if it's a new token or using Motes of Light (they're pretty useless right now let's be honest) but I believe something should be done. If you need to be 30 to run VoG on hard mode the only way to beat RNG currently is to either be lucky or make multiple characters of the same class, which is a pretty silly system and I don't think the current system is working as intended.

Good idea, but I'm just fine with the RNG as it is.

I managed to get the boots and chest piece on my first complete run through, but I still agree with this. The idea that you complete the hardest thing in the game and could come away with nothing is crazy. I think you should get at least one guaranteed reward for completing it. Something of use too, I'm not talking about a shader (who wants that)

I like it

They should have more raid sets like 3 per class , there for you have a better chance at getting loot but it might not be a matching set.

"Make loot system better!" you say? -blam!- yes! *Sees how you propose to fix it* Meh... no. I agree it needs to be fixed but not the way you proposed.

It's fine the way it is, the only thing I think should change is how many times you can get hard mode loot. Maybe like 2 or 3 times a week instead of 1. Just a thought.

Doing the raid more than once a week is already sucking away too much time and bandwidth and you want to force them to do it multiple times to get stuff.. Really?

Ithis needs to be changed, i got one sniper rifle, one shotgun, 2 hunter capes, one warlock bond and loads of ascendant energy, not even one shard, red death, and the last word, i have not got a single piece of armor, you should at least be guaranteed one piece of armor per raid as you only get rewards once per week on a character,

They should keep the rng system but add this too so unlucky players can still be rewarded and maybe get lucky themselves once in a while

[quote]After many attempts at the Raid on normal and hard I've come to the conclusion many of us have, and that is "Man I'm the most unlucky person in the history of the world." Fear not however I have a mind blowing idea that if implemented correctly would greatly enhance the desire for players to do, and complete the raid. Step 1: Completely remove Raid weapons/armor from the item pool and replace them with a Currency that I will call Kabr's Memory Fragments. (could be called anything related to the VoG really) Make it so that 1-3 are rewarded from completing segments of the raid on normal and 3-5 for Hard. Kabr's Memory Fragments would be guaranteed rewards so fear not. Chest take it or leave it could yield either Raid gear or Memory Fragments, haven't really put much thought into it since they can only be opened once per week regardless. Step 2: Add a vendor in town (I was personally thinking Kabr's Ghost) who will sell almost every piece of Raid gear minus things like the Vex Mythoclast and Sparrow/Shader/Ship/player accents. Step 3: profit! Gear cost would be scaled but similar to that of other vendors so gear doesn't seem like it would be an endless grind to try and obtain, as your average run would look something like Normal = 5-15 Hard = 15-25 fragments. Example; Any Raid Weapon = 25 Kabr's memory Fragments Raid Helmet = 30 Kabr's Memory Fragments Other Raid Armor = 15 Kabr's Memory Fragments What are your guys thoughts? Good idea? Bad Idea? Deserves a sticky maybe? Who knows :D Edit: Wow getting close to 1000 votes already :D Glad to see how many of you guys are showing interest in this idea, maybe Bungie will look into implementing a similar system in the future.[/quote] Sounds great. However it would require work therefore Bungie wouldn't agree to this. Also in the very small off chance they would, Activision would order them to supply it as paid DLC to leech whatever profits they can and therefore screw you even further. Great idea though.