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10/18/2014 8:37:38 PM
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I am NOT an offical but I can answer you to all questions from the view of a product manager:
1. The exotic bounties include PVP, yes. BUT the quests for them sound harder as they are. Even I as a total pvp sucker have managed all of them in 3-5 matches. And when I can do it, everyone can. Yes I suck at PvP but for that I am awesome in PvE ;)
2. At the moment the factions suck, yes. But they are part of a deeper system IF we are ever to see it, only bungie knows, but if yes, it's impossible to change that. And also from the viewpoint of the logic it wouldn't make sense and also it's not that hard to level them to level 2 as you can level them through pve AND pve and with that said, faster than crucible or vanguard themself.
3. This would be a very bad idea, as far as I understood the vanguard and crucible will be with us until the end of days and thus always have to 2nd highest tier available ingame and they must block it, that you might collect enough marks to buy the newest DLC gear. Else you collect up and are finished within 1 week after release of any new stuff. And then you'd cry that the game is already over again.
4. see 3
5. The whole game-engine is set up for 3 people per team and 2 teams per raid. They will never ever raise this, except when the game keeps super high frequented with players, so high that they can be sure the game will run at least 10 years, as they planned. THEN and only then there might be very very very slim chance but I would never count on it, as the game engine is build onto teams of 3.
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Just because you completed an exotic bounty in 2-3 matches doesn't mean that its ok, yes I please PVP and like it (when I'm not getting one shotted by fusion rifle noobs). You shouldn't have to do PVP gameplay to get PVE items, its stupid and makes no sense. Stop making it ok for Bungie to pick bad design decisions.
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This game does not have PvE items or PvP items.
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To complete exotic bounties, most of them are PVP related... to get weapons from the faction vendors, you need Crucible marks... they are PVP weapons...
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Those same bounties require PvE accomplishments. Those same marks can be gained from resource trading. Have a great day.
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Resource trading? Ok, have players run around in circles opening chests to get the marks, thats ok... I'm sure people won't get bored and leave the game. They also require PVP activities, it should be a choice of one or the other, not both. I hope you never become a game designer, you would never make it.
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So your argument for both methods of gathering Crucible Marks is "I don't want to do that." I don't want to work 45 hour weeks but I do want to make money. Do you hear me demanding money and refusing to work?
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Well put.
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Edited by Impact8887888: 10/20/2014 7:14:57 PMHave you even tried the thorn bounty yet? That's the biggest one people are mad about. If you can get it in 3-5 rounds (5 rounds would mean 20 VOID kills per round, 0 deaths), you must be hacking. I've done almost 40 rounds and I'm at 100 out of 500 points.
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This math is not true. At a 1:1 trade for every single kill you get, you get 3 points toward the bounty for every kill. That's 167 kills. If you didn't die the entire time, it would be 100 kills. You have to roll a .5 k/d at your best in order to need 500 kills. Honestly, the bounty is closer to 10 games. And honestly, everyone who complains about that step is a huge whiner because a void Dammerung or Light/Beware trashes it.
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Man, I wish I knew where the post I meant to reply to went.
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You get 5 points per void kill and you need 500 points, that's 100 kills
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The thorn quest is my next one I have to do, when I finished the next 25 strikes and since I have a neat Zombie Apocalypse and a 77Wizard it should be ok. Every fusion rifle is okay. If you have a class with void damage use melees and grenades too :)
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I play as a hunter, so I'm at a disadvantage right of the bat.
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Then just use a legendary fusion rifle. Learn in PvE how to time it right and how to hammer trigger without fireing and you'll get it quite fast. It's really not that hard. I'll report how bad I did but until now I managed every pvp quest
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This is not the product they advertised then. I cannot play casually with more than 2 of my friends. PvP was never promoted or said to be necessary for advancement. This is not open world. It is barely MMO, and they did advertise it as VERY MMO heavy. It is borderline fraud, and if they fixed these things, it would keep them from that liability.
