And this is from a director at bungie a month before release:
[quote]It's about the group dynamic. It's not just about a casual dynamic. It's about an understanding of people committed to playing the roles in raids. And preparing. With raids, you don't just jump into them. You've got to prepare before you go in, and decide, what are you doing? What am I doing? Let's all talk about it in orbit. Okay, what role are you going to play? Well, I'm an x Titan, whatever type of Titan I am, and I'm going to be defensive and hold positions. And, have you played this before? Yeah, I found success when I did it this way.[/quote]
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Dude there is still as much, no even more strategy than before. Now that he teleporters 3 random people you have to be more aware of the roles you are playing, for instance, you can still set up roles by designating three people on the team to always grab the relic and have them shout something in case two go in so that they know the other might grab it. Titans will still play their role as a class. All this does is enforce better team reaction and synergy.
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Makes no sense.
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Edited by Sixpvths: 10/21/2014 8:58:02 PM[quote]Makes no sense.[/quote] My bad I think were both talking about two different things. My reply was towards backing novas statement not bungie
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Yeah, not nova. I wish the raid was harder and actually required a Titan, hunter and warlock.
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[quote]Makes no sense.[/quote] It makes perfect sense actually you're just butthurt or retarded.
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Dude, we went in with 6 hunters on hard and beat it. This won't make a difference as everyone knows how to use relic, kill oracles and shoot harpies. It doesn't make sense.
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[quote]Dude, we went in with 6 hunters on hard and beat it. This won't make a difference as everyone knows how to use relic, kill oracles and shoot harpies. It doesn't make sense.[/quote] The point he was making is that it will involve more focus/skill and strategy. If people are getting sent back randomly it will require higher skilled/focus from players. The raid is suppose to be harder not easier for players.
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Read the quote and rethink it again. To require each person to have a role would make much more sense than to just make sure every player can play every role.
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The charges are piling up.
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I love raiding but I will stop when this is patched, for reasons stated above. The idiot who thought this fix up at bungie should be fired..
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I'll play it bc my whole team knows how to do each part, but I hate the focus at bungie and constant contradictions. It's bc they got it wrong and are trying to fix the game to last, horrible job doing that.
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Read it and weep Bungie. Eat your words.
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They're too delusional to think that players are going to play the way they want to, not a predetermined way to play.
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Wow... Just wow.
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HEY WAKE UP YOU GOING TO LOOSE PEPOLE YOU THINK YOU ARE GOD? LISEN WHAT THEY SAY FIX YOUR MESTAKES AND ANSWER TO THE PEPOLE OR YOU GOUING TO STAY ALONE DOND FORGET THAT YOU HAVENT HALO ANY MORE WE HAVE LITLE OUERS TO PLAY BUIT WE PLAY AND WHEN AFTER OUERS OF PLAYNG LOOSIN AND RETRYS I WANT TO SEE THAT I WIN SOMTHING NO ALL THIS FOR NOTHING
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I had to come back and reread this Bungie quote. They have really lost their way. That was just two months ago! Erosion of trust is inescapable here. I am supposed to trust that the dlc and the new raids will be worth my time when you had five years to plan this encounter and four weeks after game release you have abandoned a pillar of your supposed game design? And it appears not for the better and at cross purposes with all the statements you made about why randoms cannot do the raid and teamwork. Careening is about the only word I can think of right now. Swerving all over the place.
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[quote]I am supposed to trust that the dlc and the new raids will be worth my time when you had five years to plan this encounter and four weeks after game release you have abandoned a pillar of your supposed game design? [/quote] My thoughts exactly. They've already revised the loot and rewards system in the first 2 weeks. It's getting pretty worrying now... Every fix seems pretty poor and don't even get me started on the 'events'
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Hahaha! This just shows that this 'fix' is in fact moving the goalposts to add artificial difficulty. Thanks for the find Bleuprint
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Edited by BrokenLance: 10/19/2014 12:01:28 AMjust hilarious i cant get enough of it.
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This.
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Edited by BrokenLance: 10/18/2014 11:56:56 PM[quote]Well, I'm an x Titan, whatever type of Titan I am, and I'm going to be defensive and hold positions. And, have you played this before? Yeah, I found success when I did it this way.[/quote] wow what the hell is wrong with Bungie?
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Busted!
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A bunch of hypocritical mother -blam!-ers.
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Well done good sir. Well done.
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Hahahahahahaha This just shows that this bunch of Devs is trying to artificially extend the length of the game for the xmas crowd. That's all; lights out; show is over. They have derailed. They have abandoned the game design document, they made a game that was too short and under play tested. What a Goddarn train wreck.