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M4573R CH3IF W4RE R U?
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All ima do is ima pick my raid groups more carefully
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I did not read much of this, as I jsut woke up and it is far too much to read, but I read the first portion and thus am sure I know what the post is about. I completely agree, sending 3 random people in is a horrid idea. The whole idea to how it was is that you could have your 2 teams set up. Every portion til there has been designed to have teams set up. 3 teams for the door, 3 for the confluxes before templar, teams for holding warps and for killing mobs at templar, teams for opening portals and teams for killing gatekeapers. Why would it take away the team set up at this point when you ran through the whole thing having teams set up with certain tasks? The whole point of strategy is being able to make plans. You can't make any plans with having random people going random locations. The baby bumpers is perfectly fine. The random warping will frustrate players to no end and no one will want to do it anymore. Hopefully Bungie takes notice of everyones thoughts on this and recalls their plans of randomizing. If it is actually a bi-product of creating the baby bumpers and not something they planned to put in, but have to for the time being until they figure out why it is doing that, then it is understandable and I am fine with it being in there for a bit so long as they get it resolved. But, if that were the case, I would rather that be stated, and I doubt that is actually the case to begin with.
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2 RepliesMaybe people will finally start to actually enjoy using the shield rather than cry about how they aren't good with it. I am also tired of people telling me they can't be on the portal team. It's seriously not that hard. Shoot oracles, shoot Minotaur on Venus side. Either way you're just shooting stuff. Enjoy the pressure of being the relic guy, a few times with it and you'll figure it out.
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I know this is total bs. The Raid is [i]the[/i] best part of the game. Why? Because it involves lots of awesome strategy and role-playing. When I think of the Raid, I think about other amazing games that have stood the test of time and have millions of people playing them like WoW or LoL. It feels really good to say yeah I'm the guy you want to go in the portal cause my Nova Bomb will wreck the vex in there, and I have the Aetheon's Epilogue. Or be the guy the who says I'll make sure that when you get back out you'll be safe from the supplicants. When this goes live you might as well just have 6 copies of the same character. And it will be. If this is the direction Bungie is going to be taking future raids then I will [i]not[/i] be buying the expansions.
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It removes some of the strategy yes but it forces you to have a solid team where everybody needs to know every role. Its not that bad. Ive only killed atheon without pushing him over the edge
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Bumpity
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Bungie: "Just make it RNG and everything will be great"
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If [b]Bungie[/b] wants to add difficulty to the Raid, they should add modifiers and/or exclusive modifiers, like make Supplicants explosion radius bigger and deal more damage, or make Oracles immune to a certain elemental damage, stuff like that. I do too find the Atheon's Teleportation fix stupid.
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Okay ... For real bump this shit . At first I was kind of sad but this is bull shit.
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1 ReplyWhy is Teh Puma not talking in third person like Teh Puma usually does? [spoiler]I agree with you, though[/spoiler]
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I agree this is a horrible idea...
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Its not that I can't do it, its just that some of my friends really DON'T HAVE the skill to manage inside the portal, one of them can't get the idea! I've SPEND HOURS trying to teach him, and he doesn't understand. I'm fine with not pushing him off, I've never wanted to cheese him. Its stupid that you could do that. I just completed the hard mode without cheesing him, but should that one person get TP'd Were screwed. Get rid of that, and i'm happy. Really though. It ruins the strat that we've all been doing for a weeks. ITS STUPID. I'm glad they did everything else, but the raid on hard goes from hard, to IMPOSSIBLE for my team.
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7 RepliesSo, what you're saying is that you an your raid team are incapable of doing all the mechanics of the Atheon fight? Honestly this change bothers me very little. I can run relic, clear oracles, and clean up supplicants. The better question you should be asking yourself is, why can't you? Because you don't want to teach a guy you picked up on the forums? Because you've only ever held the relic? Roll up your sleeves and learn the encounter. It's not the end of the world.
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3 RepliesBungie is promoting luck over strategy in the hopes that this makes it more difficult to finish the raid because too many people are finishing it and this is part of their strategy to stretch the content of the game out rather than have a substantial amount of content.
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4 Repliesim good with the relic and the oracles but the supplicants piss me off
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Well for the best gun you should have a hard fight I I don't care if u push him off but I do like having a good story with the gun [spoiler]pushing him off is not a good story [/spoiler]
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[quote] This is a terrible decision, and there is no way at all that you can tell me otherwise. All this is going to lead to is frustrated players kicking each other out of their lobbies because one person isn't well versed with the relic, or maybe another isn't equipped for taking down oracles in time. What's the point of us even having a organized team at this point. Seriously, if you're going to randomize our experience now, why not just give us matchmaking since you seem to keen on implying that we must know every role? [/quote] I think it's a great decision one of the better fix's they have thought of yet. People shouldent be able to be carried through a raid, and maybe players need to get booted if they arent up for the task.. Raids shouldent be a cakewalk thats why its -blam!-ed that they had all of these bugs and it make's me think much less of this game then it could've been.
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3 RepliesThe OP of this topic nailed it, and the first response. The developers are making people not want to play this game anymore. FIX shit that needs to be fixed, stop tweaking game mechanical is to make it harder. How about you fix the portals before you make anything harder...
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When will people realise bungie don't want people to finish the raid xD...
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1 ReplyI will delete this game on Nov 3 anyway. There is nothing interesting anymore. I played every mission 50 times over and over. Patrol missions also. Raid 14 times. I got to level 30. PvPlag is full of errors and can't play it. Tell me one thing that could make me play this game more
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Thank you for bringing this up. I just read about it a few minutes ago and knew that I had to voice my opinion on this just as everybody else is. I'm fairly sure that I can say this confidently when I say that the so called, "patch" to the VoG is absolutely ridiculous. If anything, Bungie is shooting their selves in the foot with this update. The VoG is indeed very difficult just as it, not only on hard mode, but also on normal difficulty. This randomization in regards to teleporting is a big mistake and it will only drive players away from doing the raid. I'm all for a damn good challenge, but this is just too much. The point of this particular raid is to devise a strategy between players that makes for a reasonable, but doable challenge. Out of 2 million people who have started the raid, only around 400,000 have completed it and that is only on NORMAL difficulty just as it is. As mentioned above, people have become used to set roles and they created their specific strategies to do this raid and you're completely taking that away by going through with this "patch". I've thoroughly enjoyed this game since day one as well as doing the raid and ALL of my friends would agree. While it is nowhere near easy to do, it is a very challenging and entertaining raid just as it is. On a final note, I can understand the patch with pushing Atheon off the edge because that is taking the easy way out, but whoever came up with the idea of randomizing teleportation deserves a good 'ol sloppy turd in their pillowcase.
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UPDATE will ruin it for everyone exspecially the people that need help doing it I helped a lot of people that don't know how to play vault of glass if it picks 3 people randomly we wont be able to help people and im not going to waste time and hours to teach them how to use shield relic.
