I havent spoken on this because I wanted some time to marinate on it. I get that Bungie wants to make the raid more challenging, however, this is not the way. It completely flies in the face of the "team dynamics" they claim to want to promote in the raid. I don't think I can say anything that hasn't been said before, so I'll basically just leave it at that. The poster below, Bleuprint, sums up that nonsense perfectly with his post quoting the Bungie director. "It's about the group dynamic. It's not just about a casual dynamic. It's about an understanding of people committed to playing the roles in raids. And preparing. With raids, you don't just jump into them. You've got to prepare before you go in, and decide, what are you doing? What am I doing? Let's all talk about it in orbit. Okay, what role are you going to play? Well, I'm an x Titan, whatever type of Titan I am, and I'm going to be defensive and hold positions. And, have you played this before? Yeah, I found success when I did it this way." The best and most satisfying part of beating Atheon "legit" is when your team runs that sequence (teleport, kill oracles, return and group up for massive damage) like clockwork. When your team works as an actual team with actual roles, the experience is FAR more enjoyable. Thats what the raid should be all about, no? I feel like it's not even about the players anymore, but about some weird developer egos that got bruised when people figured out how to do this stuff efficiently. I've completed the raid three times this week, two of which were legit and one where the warlocks insisted on cheesing. I enjoyed the legit way FAR more. I am known in my small circle as a bas ass with the relic and basic director/leader for the flow of things. Randomization completely screws that up and makes the whole thing a giant charlie foxtrot. Fix this cheesing, for sure. Leave our ability to fill specific and necessary roles alone. Oh and one more thing. In the weekly update writeup, they called it a "bug" where Atheon would teleport the furthest three. Do they think we're that stupid? A bug is something that isn't intentional, a part of the code that didn't work as intended. This was CLEARLY programmed behavior (no way it couldn't have been). Calling it a bug is straight up disingenuous and borderline insulting.

They also need to make it to where we have random weapons that do random damage with random stats!!!! That would make it super hard!!!!!!!!

Has anyone stopped to think that three people are teleported? You don't need to do everything yourself, actually you even can't do everything. There's 3 roles here. Relic runner, oracle shooter and gate opener. If you don't know what all those roles do, look it up or ask a fellow raider. If you get teleported, there's 2 things to do. Either you shoot oracles or pick up the relic and smash things. Not really worth all this fuss.

What's so bad about learning a few different roles? Everyone should learn this stuff instead of relying on one guy to get the relic every time. That way you can go with anyone you want instead of being a floater carried through the supposedly hardest fight in the game.

If you are playing with people who are (your words) "Breathing fire down your neck" then the only one you should be blaming is yourself, find a new group of mature people who are aware of what you are doing and why it needs to be done (practicing with the relic) and you don't even have to have 6 relic veterans in there, 4/6 and you will never get shafted by the random teleportations - just make a list of #1 #2 #3 #4 relic carrier and depending on who goes in the highest number will pick it up - if this is too hard for you then you weren't even supposed to be able to beat him. The Vault of Glass was intended to be the hardest activity in the game and as of late it's just been taking it up the a**, no lube whatsoever (not working as intended), pickup groups abusing glitches to cheese through the two boss fights was not their intention when creating this. For those of us who has a main raid team who have it on farm as it is it will just add more flavour to the fight, a spark to reignite the dwindling flame. TL:DR - If you are upset about this you are most likely not good enough and/or do not have a group good enough for the fight and should therefore focus your energy on learning the different aspects of the raid instead of crying on a forum about end game content becoming too hard.

My own take on the current state of Destiny is that they are doing everything possible to stop us progressing. We did the raid on normal this week, it was my third completed raid & we only wiped once all the way through. The first two I completed I got nothing but shaders and materials/shards.....the third time I got the legendary ship, my chest piece, The Last Word and a legendary Scout Rifle, so I guess it balanced out, however..... Now I see that our efforts were basically for nothing. We've managed to put together a team for the raid that runs like a well oiled machine, and remember, we can only do this ONCE a week to maybe, MAYBE, get a piece of armor that will allow us to progress. No matter how well we run the raid we still might end up with nothing at the end of it. So what do you do? Well you go and destroy all our efforts and make it even more random than it already is. It's about tie someone asked why this is. I think it's because of the way that Bungie/Activision decided to change Destiny, in other words, they made the game too small, we're eating through content too fast, so they need to slow us down. The 'light' on the armor is obviously a 'blocker' meant to slow us down, that didn't work too well so now it's the raids turn, it's the ONLY possible reason that makes any sense at all.

I would never in a million years take time to read this entire post. That being said, wtf are you doing with your life bro? Dude, your a psycho... Write a novel about your video game feelings. Come on dude. Wake up.