I have to agree Im a Pvp and I also do the raids I had no issue with any one guns just chalked it up too lucky shot or they are just better then me. which means I need to adapt my game play which is what others do .Now I find my auto rifle completely useless for pvp and I find myself having to adapt to the pule rifle aka bad juju or my scout rifle the multitoool. which im fairly sure after the auto rifle patch people will be gunning for those guns next for a nerf and then sniper riffles and hand cannon till there is nothing left to nerf. I dont blame the people whining... thats well just people how ever I blame bungie for going over board and nerfing pretty much everything because people lack skill and brain power to adapt to a game play or players.Bungie chooses to listen to the whiners because they think those are the ones who are going to stick around to play the game later down the road. but let me bust their bubble those are the casual gamers they cater too they need to take a hard look at the hard core gamers that put in the time in their game and dont flood forums with needless crying. Im pretty sure if they looked at half the peoples kd from pvp the ones whining are the ones getting their butts kicked. In retrospect I dont agree with bungie did, I dont condone them pacifying whiners and they are gonna lose a ton of money with no one wanting to buy season passes with the path they are on. well done bungie your killing your own game.