dumb shiz, i use sniper rifles, pistols and knife in pvp! i kill vex users fast and easy! do not have a vex or any good guns but my trusty sniper? outo rifles are shit! I Will complain a bought the nerf because it wasted 80+ hours for those who farmed it. and it leaves no point in doing raid hard mode if all guns are the same then no point in doing anything hard to earn any others!! the creators are stupid! stop trying to please the pvpers that cant do shit. because they are noobs. they will never get better with you nerfing anything. On the bright side i will pwn noobs even more now rofl!! makes game entertaining!!