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10/14/2014 8:37:25 AM
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Been seeing this all the time as well. It's absolutely ridiculous. I have yet to see someone within the top 3 of a Crucible match get an exotic. I happen to have a friend who isn't all that great, usually placing last on our team, who gets more exotics and legendaries all the time. I have yet to receive one and always place within the top 3. Not to mention this same friend got the Vex two times in one week. (Two different characters). Bungie's RNG system is absolutely terrible.
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  • [quote]Bungie's RNG system is absolutely terrible.[/quote] I've never seen any RNG system that wasn't.

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  • Edited by mtwiggz: 10/15/2014 4:10:17 AM
    Diablo has always ran off of an RNG system since Diablo 1. The big difference is the items that drop are scaled depending on difficulty and of course the best drops come from bosses, but it is not guaranteed. Such as the SOJ in Diablo 2. End bosses in Nightmare and Hell mode were more common to drop the SOJ. But the ring could also come from any monster in Hell, just much more rare. The only reason I used Diablo in this explanation is to prove that there are RNG systems out there that work. It's not that Diablos RNG was flawless, but you actually had to beat difficult content to get good items. Not sit and farm level 2s to get the same drops you can get from the more difficult enemies. The fact that a level 2 can drop the same items as a level 28 is beyond me.

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  • [quote]The fact that a level 2 can drop the same items as a level 28 is beyond me.[/quote]Different degrees of "terrible", I see.

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  • Seeing, no. Noticing, yes.

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  • I was 2nd in an IB match two days ago and got a purple body engram & Plan C in the same post game. Your personal experience is too small a sample size to make any legit argument

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  • Edited by kellygreen45: 10/14/2014 8:52:16 PM
    Random is random. But human memories are not. Human beings are wired to remember those things that are associated with strong emotion. Especially those that arise when we believe we are being treated unfairly. So what happens in a situation where something is random, we tend to forget those situations where the random outcomes work to our benefit (because that's the way things are *supposed* to be, of course). While NEVER FORGETTING those times when those same rendom outcomes seem to give us the short end of the stick. Especially since we are HEAVILY conditioned by our society to expect rewards based on performance and competence...and not just on participation. Which is how the Bungie system in the Crucible and STrikes is structured. But since we arent' used to that, we keep wanting to see the outcomes through a performance based rewards system, whether its appropriate to do so or not. I did the raid for the first time last week, and all I got for 8 hours of work was a upgrade materials, a warlock bond, and a shader. While my head understand that I just got a bad roll of the RNG dice, my GUT wants to howl about how badly I got scr*wed. But I've been around the block enough times that I can ignore my gut, and leason to what my head is saying.

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  • Well written and very good points.

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  • Random is random.

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