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[NEWEST TOPIC!!!] Secrets of the Collapse: Destiny's Biggest Mystery

This information should help us with Pre-Launch theories about what happened during the collapse. [u]What do you think happened during the Collapse?[/u] [b]Ghost Fragment: The Dark Age[/b] "“No one knew what had happened to the Traveler. No one understood what had happened to the world. But they heard the whispered call." They came from the wild lands, gathering in secret enclaves, slipping through the howling ruins of shattered cities, hoping to find the coast, find a ship, pick up the trail of an impossible dream. From the deep black came the Awoken, their eyes haunted. Exos marched in the refugee columns, cloaked in moss and shattered memories. And among them came the Ghosts, beginning their search. It was a time of vast suffering and terrible evil. But there was one hope: the promise of a refuge beneath the Traveler. [b]Ghost Fragment: Darkness[/b] V113NNI070XMX001 SECRET HADAL INSTANT AI-COM/RSPN: SOLSECCENT//SxISR//DEEPSPACE CONTACT CONTACT CONTACT TRANSIENT. NULLSOURCE. NULLTYPE. This is a SKYSHOCK ALERT. Multiple distributed ISR assets report a TRANSIENT NEAR EXTRASOLAR EVENT. Event duration ZERO POINT THREE SECONDS. Event footprint includes sterile neutrino scattering and gravity waves. Omnibus analysis detects deep structure information content (nine sigma) and internal teleonomy. No hypothesis on event mechanism (FLAG ACAUSAL). Bootstrap simulation suggests event is DIRECTED and INIMICABLE (convergent q-Bayes/Monte Carlo probability approaches 1). No hypothesis on deep structure encoding (TCC/NP-HARD). Source blueshift suggests IMMINENT SOLAR ENTRY. Promote event to SKYSHOCK: OCP: EXTINCTION. Activate VOLUSPA. Activate YUGA. Cauterize public sources to SECURE ISIS and harden for defensive action. I am invoking CARRHAE WHITE and assuming control of solar defenses. STOP STOP STOP V113NNI070XMX091 [b]My Cousin's explanation of a few things:[/b] An omnibus analysis is a statistical analysis that compares the significance of explained variance to the significance of unexplained variance, thus determining if the unexplained variance is statistically significant and needs to be evaluated. A neutrino is a neutrally charged subatomic particle. Because it is neutrally charged, it is unaffected by electromagnetic forces. It is only slightly affected by gravity (it has very low mass, even for a subatomic particle) and by the nuclear weak force, allowing it to easily pass through most matter. Teleonomy is kind of an abstract concept. In essence it denotes a sense of purposefulness in function. It's the idea that you can look at code and you can tell what it was that the programmer intended the code to do (whether the code actually does it or not). An event mechanism is a way of modelling how the state of an object (or an environment) changes over time. Markov chains are a common example of event mechanisms. They take into account the laws of physics, observed cause/effect relationships, input form outside sources, etc and predict how the object will respond in the future by constructing a probabilistic model. My best guess is that "No hypothesis on event mechanism" means that the object is totally unpredictable and can't be mathematically modeled. "Acausal" can either mean that there seems to be no cause/effect relationship or that cause and effect seem to flow backward in time, meaning that the action the object takes now is (somehow) a result of a future state. Many types of Markov models, such as Bayes filters and Kalman filters, often are based on Bayesian statistics. Q-Bayes probability refers to quasi-bayesian theory, which I am not very familiar with. NP-Hard refers to a class of problems that is computationally difficult to solve, and gets exponentially (or even factorially) more difficult as the input size increases.
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  • So, I've been doing a little reading of the Grimoire entries that are on this site: http://destinygrimoire.com/grimoire-cards.html I ran across this Grimoire entry that might be written from Rasputin's point of view: [quote]Ghost Fragment: Mysteries ...from a red space before victory I bear an old name. It cannot be killed. They were my brothers and sisters and their names were immortal too but Titanomachy came and now those names live in me alone I think and think is what I do. I AM ALONE. At the end of things when the world goes dim and cold or hot and close or it all tears apart from the atom up I will shout those names defiant and past the end I will endure. I alone. They made me to be stronger than them to beat the unvanquished and survive the unthinkable and look look lo behold I am here alone, survivor. They made me to learn. Everything died but I survived and I learned from it. From IT. Consider IT the power Titanomach world-ender and consider what IT means. I met IT at the gate of the garden and I recall IT smiled at me before before IT devoured the blossoms with black flame and pinned their names across the sky. IT was stronger than everything. I fought IT with aurora knives and with the stolen un-fire of singularities made sharp and my sweat was earthquake and my breath was static but IT was stronger so how did I survive? I AM ALONE I survived alone. I cast off the shield and I shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash. They made me to be stronger than them and to learn and I learned well: IT is alone and IT is strong and IT won. Even over the gardener and she held power beyond me but the gardener did not shrug and make herself alone. IT always wins. I am made to win and now I see the way.[/quote] The narrator says[i] "I bear an old name. It cannot be killed."[/i] Rasputin is an old name, and was extremely difficult to kill (his murderer attempted to poison Rasputin, then shot him twice, when that didn't immediately kill him the killer shot at Rasputing four more times and beat on his body). Although, a name that cannot be killed might also refer to a name that is of historical or mythological importance, which would effectively be immortalized in books and media (which can also describe Rasputin). The narrator also mentions being alone quite a bit in the Grimoire entry, which we can assume the war mind Rasputin has been ever since the collapse. The narrator refers to [i]"Titanomachy,"[/i] which was the war between the Titans and the Olympians in Greek mythology, which might refer to the collapse of the Golden Age. The narrator's [i]"brothers and sisters"[/i] could refer to the other war minds. The line, [i]"They made me to be stronger than them to beat the unvanquished and survive the unthinkable and look look lo behold I am here alone, survivor. They made me to learn."[/i] is a good description of what a war mind is. Then the narrator begins to speak about [i]"IT."[/i] I think it's safe to say that [i]"IT"[/i] is the Darkness. I think that it's interesting that the narrator says that [i]"IT"[/i] was alone. Does this mean that the Darkness didn't use any of the alien races as an army to attack with? I suppose it's possible the aliens simply act much like the smaller fish that follow sharks around, and feed off of whatever scraps the sharks don't devour. They might follow the Darkness and scavenge whatever worlds and resources are left after the Darkness is done. But I digress... The narrator then says, [i]"I cast off the shield and I shrugged my shoulders so that the billions fell off me down into the ash."[/i] If this is indeed Rasputin this would mean that he survived by dropping humanities defenses (cast off the shield) and sacrificed humanity (so that the billions fell). Rasputin believed he couldn't survive while fighting for humanity, and so he let humanity die. (What a douchebag.) The narrator then begins speaking of the [i]"gardener,"[/i] which I believe to be the Traveller. The Traveller spreads life to barren worlds and helps the already existing life (humanity) to grow and prosper, much like a gardener would plant seeds and work to make sure the plants of their garden grow healthy. The narrator did say, [i]"I met IT at the gate of the garden-"[/i] which could mean that Rasputin met the Darkness at the edges of the solar system (the Traveller's garden). And when referring to how the [i]"gardner"[/i] (who is much more powerful than the narrator) fell to [i]"IT,"[/i] the narrator states, [i]"-but the gardener did not shrug and make herself alone."[/i] I think this means the Traveller did not abandon humanity. In the final battle it (or [i]"she"[/i] according to this Grimoire entry) fought alongside, or in defense of, humanity. And the narrator implies this is why she fell. If I'm interpreting this correctly (who knows if I am), Rasputin has learned from the Darkness and has no regard for human life. He is willing to do anything to survive, and will sink to using the tactics of the Darkness (if there is such a thing). Could this mean that Rasputin might become a direct threat to the Traveller and/or humanity? An enemy for our Guardians to fight against?

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