I'm loving it too and I play solo :P

Gaming with friends makes the difference. I am with the "fatal talent gaming Community" (FTGC) We are made up of guys and gals like you and your friends. Been with them for a few years now. Over all we have fun. I mean. That's the point. Find some people you enjoy gaming with. Have FUN! Yes we experience technical difficulties like everyone else. For the greater part. We have that gaming experience just like you and your friends. a whole lot of fun and a bunch of entertainment. Too bad you're not on the one. It might be good gaming with you and your crew. We do have some FTG that are one the PS4 console. You may even run across them. Good gaming youngster! Peace!

Nope, Destiny epically failed. It is obvious that something cataclysmic happened at Bungie. If something bad did not happen at Bungie then this is the most pathetic game I have ever seen, sorry for the negativity.

Me and my bros play together all the time and I defiantly makes a difference (havering trustworthy teammates and good communication) if only Bungie had told us this

While I wholeheartedly agree with your comment on Destiny being much more fun with friends and in smaller doses, as a developer doesn't some of the design decisons seem baffulling to you. Things like an in-game Grimore, a better designed RNG(even Bioware's notorious store RNG has better odds) and matchmaking for public events. I find multiplayer odd as well. The Maps are all amazing as expected from Bungie, but again the RNG raises it's ugly head and no Private matches(remove rewards and exp. I've seen it done before). I'm not trying to troll but as Design students my friend and I are just stunned at the lack of some basic core things. Just like to get your thoughts.

u need another dude in your fire team?

Dude, are you my long lost more active twin? Im golf pro, in my 30s. I work all day, skip the gym, make dinner, and take care of my dog, then I hop on a PS4 party and play destiny too!!! But seriously, I'm your same boat man. I got a good group of about 6 guys. Not everyone plays every night, but most do. Me and a couple others are raid ready sitting at 27+, just waiting on the last couple. Having a core group makes the game much more fun. I've had a blast this last month playing the game and look forward to many more nights of playing. I'm sure that ultimately we will probably put it down before the xpack, but once it hits, we shall return with a vengeance.

The game is fun for me but some people just can't get past the whole conspiracy theory of cut content and perceived value. It's all good because forums were made for the positive and the negative.

Love the game also and have very little to complain about. Unfortunately I cant afford a PS4, so I play on PS3 which gives me a great experience as well. If I made a 100k a year developing software like you guys, maybe I could afford one also....lol !!! Can't wait till they do the patch for the engrams.

I wholeheartedly agree. Playing by yourself can get sluggish, but add some friends and mics, and this game is a blast. Whether banding together to complete a weekly strike, and casually working on bounties in Patrol Mode, this game is fantastic.

I think the difference for you is two fold, same as me; age (and by extension - expectations), and somewhat related experience? - I'm 31 and a game dev (well, transitioning QA Analyst/Specialist) and I'm also really enjoying the game. I think that some of the criticisms and complaints that people are making are truly accurate (the story or lack of one at times, being the best complaint), but the volume and how the complaints are being presented is ludicrous...even by trolls and/or internet standards ...yeah, whining and groaning is nothing new, but in the amount that Destiny has been receiving is nuts to me. Then again, unlike a lot of people (I guess?) I keep my expectations low. I also think being in a dev industry makes us more forgiving because we understand how some "things" and features end up the way they do and that no matter how hard you try, and how many hours of OT you and your coworkers try to cram into a week (forsaking social life, significant others, and sometimes sanity), it just happens sometimes for any number of reasons. I think the [b]biggest difference[/b] of how you view this game lies in what kind of gamer you are - personally, I play a little bit of everything (though shooters the majority of the time), so I enjoy and am fully familiar the mixture of RPG/MMO elements with the shooter elements in Destiny, but plenty of comments on this forum have made it clear that many Destiny players were only Shooter or only MMO fans and weren't comfortable with the other half... (like multiple people complaining about drop rates, or how they grinded for 45 mins somewhere and got nothing - are you kidding me? 45 mins isn't even a noob-grind in a game like World of Warcraft. You could grind for 5-7 hrs and never get the drop you were after. THAT's a grind, and that's not even the worst example) ...this appeared to be compounded into a worse problem with the lack of explanations and/or tutorials from Bungie (which I didn't personally need, but I could see how some things could have used an explanation even though some people probably wouldn't have paid attention to them or skipped them and still complained). For example, in Crucible I realized right away that there would still be advantages in gear and weapons even if base stats were even and mentally prepared for the occasional I'm gonna get wrecked arse kicking, but the crucible handler or another NPC should have probably thrown that warning out for everyone else. Idk - the hype was a problem too, but I don't buy into hype anyhow, so it didn't really affect me or give me unrealistic expectations.

Agreed, playing with a few friends never allows a boring game. Lots of humor aswell. So agreed, and favorited.

Im a full time software developer too and I find that playing only a few hours a day has kept me wanting to play everyday. I also think the game will improve a lot with dlc and patches

Thanks you! I have two friends in different states that we all happen to work the same schedule. We get off work, talk on the phone on way home planning what to do in Destiny that night. I put my baby to bed and turn on the PS4 and we jump in to Strikes, Crucible, Patrols, gearing up, etc... We're having so much fun! I think like you said it's because we're playing with a dedicated group of friends every time to bring the experience to the next level and like someone else mentioned before me only having a limited amount of time to play each day really gets you always craving for more!

Of course, some people would sit hours on end shooting into a cave, how *blam*ing boring is that.. I got everything I got from just playing the game. People have a hard time getting legendaries because they expect one to just pop out of an enemy they kill when they can just work to get marks to BUY legendaries and maybe if you're lucky a purple engram will drop. Just yesterday I was collecting Relic Irons on mars, killed a bot and got a engram, and in that engram I got a Exotic Shotgun. Was I expecting to get a purple engram? No.. Was I expecting to get an Exotic weapon? No, lol not at all. If you're just patient the good geat will come to you.

I do have fun with friends. But I just can't get on with the rng or rep grinding. Also I am struggling to get 6 friends together on ps4 at the same time. So lvl 28 is about as far as I can get. Shame really.

I think not having inflated expectations helps a lot. I knew nothing of the now-infamous 2013 ViDoc of Destiny making all the incredible promises. I got a PSN text from a friend mentioning that he had an extra Destiny Beta code, and would I like to try; I answered yes, figuring what's the worst that can happen. Fell completely in love with the gameplay in Beta, was already planning builds (I'm a circa-1997 Armored Core gearhead) based on the skill tree mappings which came out of the Beta (and the few glimpses people caught of those lovely Exotics), and pre-purchased the full game on 9/1. Come 9/9 at about 12:15 am I was blazing away with my first toon and loving it. I haven't stopped loving it since. I see and fully acknowledge the flaws, and while I think quite a few of the complainants make far too much of them (or at least have wildly overblown reactions), I understand that the objections are valid and the game has clear issues. Sadly, wherever lies the fault, it seems the original (awesome) plan for Destiny was heavily undercut by leadership (and Activision) sticking their hand in and forcing the game into development hell. Then Activision of course pressured for a product at deadline, and we got what we got. Honestly I think it's a bit like it or lump it at this point. As said above, I'm a devotee of the Armored Core series - I'm [b][i]used[/b][/i] to half-baked, poorly playtested games which somehow still have a ton of intoxicating fun-factor and potential, and seeing new revisions break as many new issues as they fix old ones. Destiny does have blemishes, but at its worst I wouldn't put it in the realm of AC Silent Line or Project Phantasma for brokenness and unbalance, or of AC2 (not AA) for glitchiness. It's a decent game for a soloist who's willing to be patient and farm like crazy, and a good game for friendly, dedicated playgroups (it's just like Facebook, with more Rocket Launchers!). I believe the AMA Reddit information dump from "404Architect" is probably mostly or all accurate, and a badly flawed game was cleaned up as best possible by dedicated (if disappointed) and talented designers. I also believe that many of those same talented, dedicated people are currently working with what they have to right the ship as best possible, and get her on a safe and worthwhile course to a strong future for the franchise. I think it sucks beyond any description - if true - that so much time, energy and creative talent was spent on a project which ultimately was ripped out by its roots and re-specced to so vastly different a core proposal as to be barely recognizable as the same product; but even still, what remains is fun and engaging. It's accessible for FPS n00bies who don't have the blitzkrieg reflexes of Teenage Mutant Ninja CoDers, and that's thoroughly welcome. Also, for some reason (probably the Tower hubworld) Destiny gives me a nice warm Phantasy Star Online vibe. I did love me some PSO. Ah, days of Dreamcasts past.

I'm with ya man, exactly how I've been playing as well. Work, gym, dinner, dog walk, some housekeeping, then Destiny. We can't get enough of it. Having a busy scheduled and playing this game for the limited time you get and with people you know definitely takes this game to another level.

I'm having the same experience as you are. I see the quality in the game that I appreciate, though it's the ability to play it with friends that makes it the fun that it is.