I have friends who have been playing since the game came out and they barely have any legendary or exotic gear. A few of us wish we can help him out by trading so we can actually do the vault. The game has become a grind fest with no real solution insight.

This is hilarious. I purposely went 2 and 14 in a game to test the RNG.. I got a legendary something. Dismantled it for tards.

Such BS. I mean really. I have never received any rewards from Crucible. KD always 1.5+. lolz

The whole game is a joke ... the back story about the fight for survival of the human race and the game has us harvesting bounty for our personal gain. At least the game matches its Teen rating. ([i]teen rated replies: 1[/i])

The RNG (loot) and trading (or lack of) systems: -Bosses should have loot tables associated with them. This way, even if RNG remains in place, there are only a set number of drops that would be randomly selected. -Crucible performance should have an effect on the rewards. -Strike performance should have a bearing on completion rewards. (usually, I kill most of the enemies in the strikes I run, but more times than not, I get worse items, if any, than the guy that kills the least) -There is no reason why we shouldn't be able to trade being as how the entire (minus a couple of queen's missions and a couple of story missions) reward system is based on RNG. Bungie wants us to "earn" our rewards and display them like trophies. Well with an RNG system the worst player can get something great while the best player runs around with crappy gear. There are no true rewards for doing well. The current system "rewards" players for just being. Time spent greatly overrides player skill when finding items. Not everyone has hours a day to spend on the game. Before the loot cave nerf, PC players could just write a macro to cave farm the entire time they weren't actively playing. (It's not hard, I've written them for other games.) How much pride can be taken from an item that was found by shooting into a beginner level cave because there are no restrictions on the quality of drops available there? How about a player that hides in a corner the entire crucible match but ends up with the best loot? There are some people that are so insecure and shallow that they feel the need to try to get ahead by exploiting a game in any way possible. These are the same people that have to cheat on other games to have some edge to win over other players. Removing these exploits would reduce the avenues in which players can choose the "lazy" way to play. Crucibles would have more active players if there were no possibility of completion rewards, aside from reputation and marks, for players that ranked 4th and below. Those items worth having should be found in more difficult areas like high level strikes, raids, and doing well in crucible. If I find an item in one of these areas that I can't use or isn't as good as my current item, I should be able to give it to a friend to help him along. We are "encouraged" to play in teams, but are forced to be stingy with our items.

Hmmm I did 3 exotic bounties I got 3 exotic weapons. I bought an exotic arm piece. And some RNG worked in my favor for decent weapons. I kicked ass in crucible and strikes and bought my armor set. I see no issues here.

You got glimmer for your work.

They should get rid of loot in pvp and hand out only marks

I wish I had the pic but one of the first crucible matches I played; the guy in last got Monte Carlo. I just sat there like wtf? I thought exotic was supposed to be the hardest type of weapon to get...

they participated in the crucible. you dont know what their skill level is. not everyone is a crackshot quick scoping PvP badass my little strudel dumpling. So the fact thats its randomized who gets what. they still earn it for trying and participating. your jsut mad cause you get crap. This is in no way "trading" or "not earning"

It's messed up. I dont see why people should get blue or green, for a rare purple. Why the hell do you have it with specific colors, if it is not going to give the desired item? It feels horrible having to play for hours to get a shiny new jordans, just to be given a sock instead.

Boting in pvp is the new "loot cave"

The biggest problem for me was their comment, "We want your gear to have a story" (not verbatim). Yeah, sure. I can tell you about how I ran reputation bounties, grinded marks, and then BOUGHT my first legendary. That was not exciting or rewarding. I ran low level content and eventually spent enough time to get gear. For a loot game, which is what they advertised this as, this is inexcusable. Why couldn't they introduce sidegrades? I'm not expecting it to rain purple and gold, but introduce gear bonuses that change the way I play a class. The gear ladder is purely dependent on the color.