What exactly do you mean by complete game? I am generally curious. I see destiny as a complete game. Complete in the aspect that it was finished by release date. But the problem is not if the game is complete or not, the problem is the mind set and atmosphere in the gaming industry. If we observe modern shooter games there are few that can handle both a robust multiplayer and an amazing story Bf, cod, titanfall, halo (excluding CE) are all fun games, with awesome PvP aspects, but none have a really riveting story. None of the stories are a "must play" Halo being the minor exception but the only ones with decent story telling IMO were CE and ODST ... The ones with no real PvP goals. The way I see it, games from now on are going this route, if the core audience is PvP the core game will be PvP and story is a poor second. It is sad and pathetic that we can not have both amazing story telling and a fun and addicting PvP aspect in games.

[quote]Bungie owes us a complete game... Anyone who says they don't are just fanboys When you exchange money for goods or services there is some expection of quality you'll get in return The reason the industry releases so many crappy unfinished games these days is because most of the community allows them to and falls for their little ploy that making a video game is so hard blah blah[/quote] What I find most disturbing is everyone is hiding behind this "it's only been out a week" excuse. Since when is it OK to release an incomplete game at all? Regardless of its MMO style or 10 year plan to change, evolve and have constant content updates it should have been a full experience from the start. The game has been fun but it has also been hollow and it's not in anyway a complete initial experience.

Games been out for a cpl weeks, and is planned to be supported for up to 10 years. I'm not worried if they haven't fixed everything yet, and just because they don't address something publicly doesn't mean its being ignored or neglected. I love how everyone thinks bungies ignoring the problems lol, nothings perfect, and pvp is 50% of the game, dont like it dont play it cuz they clearly defined that for yrs while it was being developed. Dlc and expansion packs are essentially content that was cut and pasted into the game, at least that's how its felt the last 5-7 years anyways, and it didn't cost anything so it is free. The purchased expansions will be another story though.