I won't lie: I farm the cave when I am able to. I do my bounties and daily first, but I have tended to wind up ending my night off there a few times. Farming will be a part of every MMO, and this one in particular will continue to exist as long as the mechanics of the game remain the same. That being said, you make some great points that I agree with! I'm want to be rewarded for farming, but I shouldn't be rewarded for farming in a low level zone where it is just so simple. The most fun I have in this game are in Strikes and Heroic missions. I don't even anticipate gear or engram drops anymore; just farming the rep and marks at this point. The cave has NOT been good to me. Yet, as long as it is there, I will go on occasion and farm for engram drops and materials from dismantling all of the greens. I won't be upset if it ever gets patched, because I don't want to really do it anyway. I only speak for myself, though, as there are those who do genuinely enjoy it. Bottom line, TLDR; A player farming the cave hurts nobody and has no effect on anybody else. I can see the concern over Iron Banner, but time will tell for that. Though, I do agree with some of your points and hope some sort of way can be implemented that farming low level mobs is not rewarded, but instead farming more difficult mobs becomes enticing.