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[quote]Destiny is Huge. it really is[/quote]It really isn't.
[quote]you think there is no story but there is.[/quote]Nobody is saying there isn't a story in the game. There is. It's just complete shit.
[quote]its in the grimoire cards[/quote]And right there is a major problem of it. Locking away crucial info on races, characters, weapons, etc. on ANOTHER platform is nothing short of idiotic. Players who don't visit Bungie aren't going to know about many things the Grimoire cards tell. We pay money for a complete experience, not a story that is told elsewhere.
[quote]What story there is to Destiny is the foundation to later expansions to the game.[/quote]See this? This is -blam!-ing stupid. I don't shell out $80 for a half assed, half complete story, ONLY to pay MORE money for story that should have already been included. If the story told in Destiny is a "foundation", then it's build out of -blam!-ing sand. It's a horrible precedent and practice Bungie is setting here.
[quote] this is not Call of Duty where you can beat it in 6 hours and go straight to the multiplayer, or skip the campaign and play only multiplayer anyway[/quote]Except, you pretty much can do both of those. The campaign is so linear and short, beating it 6 hours isn't impossible. You only need level 5 to play multiplayer, and I reached that before even finishing Earth.
[quote]Since a lot of players don't like to find things out themselves but rather be told to or have their hands held throughout the game, thats probably why its been badly criticized[/quote]Right, people criticizing the game on ACTUAL faults are wrong. They just need their hand held, and don't understand the true scope of Destiny.
[quote]Stop and look around in the areas. nobody has been on mars or venus, the moon (for decades) enjoy the terraformed scenery. you may find something that could tell you what happened during the Golden Age or what happened during the Collapse.[/quote]In all my time playing Destiny, I haven't seen a single piece of scenery that gives me backstory on what has happenend in the universe Bungie created. Beautiful skyboxes, for sure. But a volcano spitting out blue lava doesn't really tell me jack shit about why the Vex are sitting with their thumbs up their asses not taking over the solar system.
[quote]Bungie did not work on this game for 10+ years to give you this[/quote]If Bungie really spent over 10 years making Destiny, then they -blam!-ed up horribly somewhere along the road. 10 years to make this game? Christ almighty.
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[quote]What story there is to Destiny is the foundation to later expansions to the game. See this? This is -blam!-ing stupid. I don't shell out $80 for a half assed, half complete story, ONLY to pay MORE money for story that should have already been included. If the story told in Destiny is a "foundation", then it's build out of -blam!-ing sand. It's a horrible precedent and practice Bungie is setting here.[/quote] you paid $80.00..... which means you paid for the DLC story adds that are coming over.... have a problem with that ? should have just bought the regular edition and complained. have a problem with that? learn that destiny has only been out for 2-3 weeks. Have a problem with that? TOO -blam!-ING BAD! CRY A DAMN RIVER AND GET THE -blam!- OFF THE GAME Good ? GOOD :)
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[quote]you paid $80.00..... which means you paid for the DLC story adds that are coming over.[/quote]No, I paid $80 for the game. Where are you getting that I paid for the DLC? Did I ever say that? No, I didn't. Video game prices are jacked up here in Canada, and with tax, video games clock in at just shy of $80. [quote]have a problem with that ? should have just bought the regular edition and complained.[/quote]I do have a problem with that. Bungie hyped this game to epic heights, and I went in expecting the very best. What I found and came out with was a half baked story, with excellent gameplay. I did buy the regular edition. [quote]have a problem with that? learn that destiny has only been out for 2-3 weeks.[/quote]I don't understand your point. Are you saying that anyone who has been able to do most of what the game offers already is wrong? Or can't you face the fact there is minimal content in the game? The game has been out for two weeks, not "2-3" and I'm nearing completion on my Warlock. A raid, a handful of achievements and two and a half light levels left for me. Not enough content to keep me interested until the DLC. The Queen's Bounty missions are evidence of this. [quote]Have a problem with that? TOO -blam!-ING BAD! CRY A DAMN RIVER AND GET THE -blam!- OFF THE GAME[/quote]I'm criticizing the game, which is a perfectly normal thing to do, and you equate that to me crying? I haven't played a game that doesn't have its faults, but I still play them because I enjoy aspects of them. Gameplay is great in Destiny, but I can't criticize Bungie for faults in their story or content?
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You made my day, keep up the good work!
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Hi there, Jarghan! You're an idiot. That is all.
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Edited by SilverCyric: 9/23/2014 3:14:20 PMYou act like your $80 is supposed to buy a mansion... I spend more on groceries every week. The simple fact that you can get a week of enjoyment out of $80 is plenty in itself. I myself search for 2-3 titles a year that I'm going to play 200+ hours. Usually I succeed, but after over a decade, I do have 12-15 games unfinished or that I lost interest in. Your money isn't a guarantee to your satisfaction, you're paying to be able to use their product. One developed to their desires and vision. If you were to create something you put part of yourself into it. Your money is an investment into your entertainment, if you don't like the game, you invested poorly... Nothing against your opinions, but I would prefer to see individuals, such as yourself, find something they enjoy and go be positive on that forum. You'll be a much happier person and consumer... P.S. They spent 2-3 years developing the game but have a 10 year plan in motion to continually evolve the world of Destiny. We have 9 years 11 months and 50 weeks left, and as of now, with now expansion, the possibilities are nearly limitless...
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[quote]You act like your $80 is supposed to buy a mansion[/quote]Except I'm not. I'm expecting a full experience, and whether or not I find that fun is how I guage if my money was well spent. My money wasn't well spent, and I'm going to be more wary of upcoming Destiny games/DLC. When I buy a video game, I expect the developer will deliver on all of their promises. Bungie has not. [quote]I spend more on groceries every week.[/quote]OK? [quote]The simple fact that you can get a week of enjoyment out of $80 is plenty in itself.[/quote]That is dangerous thinking right there. If you get a week of enjoyment out of a game, good for you. But if you spent $80 on it? You're not very good with money management. [quote]Your money is an investment into your entertainment, if you don't like the game, you invested poorly[/quote]Bungie promised a large, grand scope game. We didn't get that. It was my fault for believing in what Bungie had to say. I invested poorly, but under the assumption that my investment would have been well spent. [quote]Nothing against your opinions, but I would prefer to see individuals, such as yourself, find something they enjoy and go be positive on that forum. You'll be a much happier person and consumer...[/quote]I'm just pointing out the flaws in the game. Does that mean I am an unhappy consumer? Not necessarily. Slightly offtopic, but #Gaming is where I spent most of my time, and I was happy over there... until Destiny came and now I can rarely see a non-Destiny topic. [quote]P.S. They spent 2-3 years developing the game but have a 10 year plan in motion to continually evolve the world of Destiny. We have 9 years 11 months and 50 weeks left, and as of now, with now expansion, the possibilities are nearly limitless..[/quote]They really aren't. The Queen's Bounty is evidence of this. Re-doing story missions as bounties, just with different modifiers. Not much evolution going on there. You keep telling yourself the game will evolve, if that makes you feel any better.
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Like I said you expect too much, I know the value of $80, my point was that people will spend much more for a single evening of entertainment. It's not that I don't manage money well, I just obviously make more and have more opportunities. Like I said I'll spend more on a weeks groceries than a year of Destiny... It's $80 and you're acting like they stole it when you gave it to them. They don't owe you anything. I don't say this to argue I say this so you can go find something that makes you happy and not regretful of your choice. I was all over this game for 6-8 months before it launched. Combing every news article, watching dev videos. There was a hype, but easily seen through. Hype is part of advertisement which is a separate beast from development. If the game sucks but was advertised well, that's just a good job on their part. Makes the developers look bad too... But so far, the game is coming out exactly like I thought, the only surprise is how much fun it is and how interactively social the game is. The story ended quick but was no different than a CoD campaign of MGS title... Not knocking, I love those franchises to death!! Just learn to spend your money where it counts most, Light knows my $100 has... Take it easy brutha : )
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Edited by TheUnknownMerc: 9/23/2014 4:32:10 PM2-3 years for this is still sad. Next, i don't give a shit how much 80$ is to some people. The fact is i pay for Quality, not for empty promises and a "oh but they tried and you know...they gave us a game we should be happy about that." no NO NO NO NO NO. This does not apply in the workplace and this should not apply here. I did not pay for half a game only to need to pay more later on for DLC, or to wait months for content, i paid for a game to play now, i didn't pay for a subscription to wait for content, i paid full money for a full game and did not get that. Also if you can't find any games to spend over 200+ hours on them...you are looking in the wrong places, especially if you like grindshits like this game.
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Wow, that's cool, but honestly I don't think you'd be happy with anything, even if they spent 1 billion developing and 10 years time doing that... And yes, as a business owner, there are no requirements. I just don't see where you're coming from when you state that quality is a demand if they accept your money. The power is within the consumer to not buy the product. If you're unhappy, you don't buy any more and you inform others that it may not be for them as well. The other kind of mindset will lead to ruin. It's takes you down a path where for example you expect the government to do the right thing, but the government is not structured or motivated by anything other than monetary gains and acquisition of power for individuals. You don't need the government to tell you what right and wrong, you are fully capable if determining that on your own. Think of Bungie and Activision as another fast food joint. Either they have the burger you really crave, or it's not as good as another place you would prefer. You can complain, but that won't solve the issue, probably just get your food spit on, another wrong thing with the world, lol But you can choose never to eat their food again, or at that location, or maybe even just not go there for 6 months, 10 years, whatever you wish. You're very right when you said it's your money and it's worth what it is to you, but still, it's your choice where to spend it. I choose to see their business like it is. Here's their product, here's their price, now it's up to me whether I want to pay it. If I pay and am unsatisfied, well them it's on me to learn to put my money in better places... All in all, luck to you dude! : ))
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Except that they basically went "come and eat are 5 star meal, we have the scenery, the atmosphere, the music. This will be a unique experience that you won't forget." You pay 70$ for dinner and they take you to your seat, tables aren't wiped, theirs stains and food still there, the chairs suck, the scenery is good...but it's a window and not a good view, there's a patio but you can't go on it. The plates at least LOOK decent, however the food itself was ill prepared, doesn't taste very good, cooked wrong. there is music...somewhat but you can't here it well at times and other times it's too loud. Plenty more complaints but this just sums up into "false advertisement." Exactly what bungie did, if they had either not said anything, or had been truthful about what i would get, i wouldn't be complaining and would have waited, but they weren't. Hence i am complaining.
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Well I'm bummed for you dude, only because I'm having the time of my life! I'm loving this game and am addicted like the biggest crackhead. Lol So many epic moments I've experienced. It's unbelievable!! I think they lived up to everything I wanted. It's not 100% perfect, nothing can be, but it's just perfect in it's imperfection, so to contradictorily speak. Hehe I hope ya find a game you like
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Yup, playing Soul Sacrifice Delta, among a few others. I'll be waiting for the day bungie steps it up. If not whatever i don't be pre-purchasing their shit again.
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That's the key!! Don't like it, don't buy it. Now if all the others who feel as you do, didn't buy, millions would be pulled from them and that would definitely get them wondering why and what they need to do to fix it. But they paid the $500 million dev cost first day of sales. So they've paid it off, but that's good. Because now they're looking at nearly pure profit from all sales hence, but only as long as they can keep a worldwide interest in the game. I don't forsee myself being one that leaves Destiny. I'm pretty positive I'll be playing nearly everyday for 10 years lol
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Want to know why? because of all the videos of the devs promising things that didn't happen. We bought on their word, and yes we shouldn't have, but we thought bungie would be truthful, we are naive and paid the price. Now i will use the fact i spent 70$ and complain to hell and back because i -blam!-ing paid, i earned the right to complain about it. I doubt i'll be playing this in 1 year let alone 10. Only because i'm not invested emotionally. Deus Ex 3 had my money, Max Payne had my money, Starcraft has my money, a bunch of other games had my money...because they lived up and exceeded what they claimed for the game...And i thought bungie would do the same. Turns out they didn't so they lost a customer. I won't be purchasing until this entire franchise is complete. But i'll still be complaining because i paid for it.
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You're fine buddy, I'm still listening and hopefully haven't made ya feel you can't have an opinion. I'm just debating and talking here. Now buying on a word is a gamble and a risk, I played the Beta so I knew I was going to at least get my $100 out of it but was sure it'd go much farther
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Indeed, i played the beta as well, a lot of it...but i expected...something better out of the story at least. I did not expect at all that that was basically it. I find the gameplay and PvP awesome...and if it had a decent story development to it i would love it as i would feel more involved. But as it stands i feel...not connected to the game, or to my character.
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Ohh now that sucks, best point so far. If you don't feel connected to the game or your character, something's not right, either with the game or something else unknown to me. You won me over, I feel for ya Holmes. Hope you find that game or they fix this one for ya. Personally, I've been searching for that game that fills me and have always come up short, until now... I just hope it stays, there's always the chance I'll tire of it sooner than later...
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you're not in the work place. so it does apply there. work is work and games are play. you can't have your cake AND eat it. Unless your just one of the sheeps of society and like to be fat and nasty
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And that's exactly why activision and EA can get away with this crap because everyone puts up with it. Listen, if you made a shit product, half assed, missing components and went up to your boss and went "i'm done, can i have a bonus?" what the hell do you think they would say? Everyone i know would fire you on the spot. Want to know why EA and Activision and now Bungie can get away with it? Because gamers just go "yay we AT LEAST got a game...i'm happy with that." No one cares about quality anymore they just care about getting something and they will shell out 70$ for it. I hardly buy games over 20$ because most of the games that come out now are just plain crapfests, I can select 5 games within older than 10 years and i will get more game time than 20-30 games that are created today. It's just plain sad that people look at it and go "yay we got something thanks for WORKING."
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Lolol genius! XD Ignorance is always louder, but surprised someone actually took time to post what most already hold in their minds on this matter. Destiny has its own universe, but i swear they purposely are trying to make its history/story inaccessible or inconvenient. As it stands, destiny's universe is just there, existing, for most players. Its fun, but it feels like a playground instead of a universe ._.
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Gorgeous post.
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I have to say, I just love your analysis.
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"Boo hoo I'm not satisfied!!" Tough shit dude, go away and get over yourself.
