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Edited by Azurik Pupil: 9/19/2014 4:21:56 PM
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How about you understand whats OP instead of thinking nothing is OP. Shotguns Fusion rifles and at times the titans bubble shield are OP. Also most people that complain that something is OP know what there talking about and don't suck like you think they do. I do rather well but i get killed by all the OP shotguns and fusion riffles as well as titans who drop bubble shields on the objective and just camp inside with shot guns. Understand that in every single game when they first come out they have things that are OP and things that are Under Powered. the things i named are OP and everyone else that has been killed by these items will also know the pain of dying instantly when they shouldn't of died at all.
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  • Until Bungie stops requiring certain things be done in Crucible to unlock exotic weapons they don't need to do anything to shotguns or fusion rifles. I play as a Hunter so I don't do Voud damage with either subclass. But the exotic weapon bounty I have insists I get 500 points of void damage in Crucible. That means I am stuck using a shotgun, fusion rifle, or sniper as my primary weapon. I can also of course use Heavy weapons for void damage but with how little I get to the ammo I'd never get the bounty relying only on those. So unless Bungie stops requiring these kind of bounties just for an exotic then nothing needs to be nerfed or changed.

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  • Dude the hunters are op... forget that golden gun but that disappearing knife special??? 6 of us empty entire clips w/grenades into him but he mowed us down single handedly generated orbs for his team of hunter/pulse rifle snipers. Cheese effect! It takes a rocket launcher or another special to counter. Warlock seem so useless compared to that.

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  • The special doesn't get me void damage points to help unlock my exotic weapon though. It may be powerful but it can be beat. I've managed to kill a few with a fusion rifle to the face.

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  • Also I knew you'd be a warlock without even reading that bit at the bottom lmao. Warlock super makes you invincible, on both supers. They activate without delay. You don't even have to hit your target with the void super as everything dies anyway. The sunsinger class gives you an overshield to further add to your invincibility too... As the other original poster says... You're screaming for the game to favour you and only you, and it's a waste of time posting your opinion on here... Here's an idea; play as the hunter and figure out it's weaknesses (and believe me, I've complete both subclasses and there's a ton) then complain afterwards.

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  • I hate complaining but I ran into 2 many lobbies full of hunters and it feel like the warlocks got shafted on alot. Lol

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  • Fair play, but read your class strengths and know their abilities and play to them. Don't complain about running into other classes strengths. Hunter is the precision class where being precise rewards high damage, which is why there's more hunters. Titan is defensive and toughness, it's strengths are about enduring damages and distracting enemies. Warlocks sit in between those two but the supers grant the benefits of both - invulnerability to damage, and high, instakill damages requiring no precision.

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  • Well got advice from someone they told me run so I'm gonna try it later. And if I survive running and not get pulse rifle or sniped from their butt buddies well I will not complain from that point on.

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  • If they're using snipers and pulse rifles, play to small play spaces. And only cross long sight lines where necessary. Snipers can only be used in a handful of places so they're easy to avoid and sneak up on from behind.

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  • Easier said than done when you got shotguns in your face and auto rifles flanking you with hunters cheesy arc knifes chasing you with pikes and interceptors shooting shhhh at you.lol

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  • All six of you simply missed then. The hunter's Bladedancer subclass is the least OP class around. It has focus on agility, so they're weaker, it's Super is a melee attack, and it's secondary ability is a slightly extended melee range which has no indicator of when you're in range. So they have to get close to all their enemies... Every other game requires CQB combatants to have extended health to give them the chance to get into close quarters with enemies. The Bladedancer is a CQB combatant on speed, with the health of a 6 year old girl. Simply put; the original poster is correct. It's your own fault you're failing and you're misusing the term "OP".

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  • I've never seen one of these bounties.

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  • I've been inside my shield and got killed by a Fist of Havoc and Nova Bomb. Not to mention the Hunters beast Bladedancer unstoppable melee. So no the shield is not OP.

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  • Then why didnt my golden gun kill a titan inside the shield??? i hit him and it got him to almost dead but he still lived.

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  • It was either Armor of Light or Blessing of light. Beings that Armor of Light is the first ability in the skill tree I'm going to guess that. Gives him lots of damage resistance in the shield. Where Blessing of Light grants a temporary shield when walked through that's much weaker. Armor of Light recharges where Blessing of Light gets refreshed when walking through the shield.

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  • IRL up close shotgun = death .... GTFO with the whiny shotguns are OP.

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  • Edited by M4TTH35: 9/20/2014 6:18:12 AM
    [quote]IRL up close shotgun = death .... GTFO with the whiny shotguns are OP.[/quote] The dudes whining how OP his shotty is but then crying when his 1 hit flaming pistol won't work. Pay no attention to him, just a bad player making excuses.

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  • Edited by Azurik Pupil: 9/19/2014 11:40:13 PM
    yeah in REAL LIFE not in GAMES with shields! quit being childish and understand that a game is suppose to be fun not world of OP weapons and forced to use something that ruins all the fun.

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  • Edited by BigD9176: 9/19/2014 11:41:39 PM
    Look don't QQ because you suck bro... Take the shotgun blast to the dome like a man and then carry on smartly...

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  • The natural phase to say for people who are try hards. I do have skill i can win Rumble with out issue but that's cause i'm forced to use a OP shotgun sucking away my fun. Instead of being a try hard and saying "you suck get over it" Understand whats OP and needs to be fixed instead of saying "you just suck" That's just like most people do in the World of tanks game saying they suck and should quit. that player that says that usually is the worst at the game while the person he said it to is carrying the entire game.

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  • Why are you fighting in close quarters? If you truly had skill, you'd lure your enemies out and pick them off with a sniper where their OP weapon may as well be a spud gun... (Spud gun might do more damage at range actually) Play the game properly and you'll see shotguns aren't OP. I don't think they are at all, and I rarely use them in PvP. Sniper rifle all the way.

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  • It's not that shotguns are op in and of themselves, because shotguns absolutely such from 5 yards or greater. It's that I can basically find special ammo so often, I am always completely full after 30sec to 1min of the game starting

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  • That's a good way to fix shotguns. make it where when heavy ammo hit the field so does special ammo and you can only pick it up once.

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  • Bad idea. Heavy only drops ammo once in 3-4 minute cycles. Special ammo breaks up the monotonous auto rifle spam. Special ammo drops would need to be every 60 seconds at most.

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  • Shotguns are OP in every game, fusion rifles aren't OP either, it takes time to charge, either you run up to everyones face in pvp or you're just bad. Also the bubble for the DEFENDER subclass does what its meant to do.

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  • Edited by Azurik Pupil: 9/19/2014 11:20:06 PM
    So its meant to save someone from dying from a golden gun shot??? I was inside the bubble with them i did damage and they started recharging instantly and didn't die like they were suppose to. Also I'm not the only one saying there OP. i have about 25 others that say the same thing. there very skilled at the game as well.

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