skill can overpower gear yes, but if you have the best gear for non-normalised stats and fight someone of equal skill who doesn't, you're gonna win every single time.

Your right but its gives us something to strive for in a way, if they made it all even its going to be another cod or battlefield or you cam be a noob and pick up a shotgun lol

Yeah but then is what Iron banner is for? So titans can go ham with their defense that now counts? IDK I really don't know how it will turn out since most stats are still used for Crucible anyway :/ IMO I would make crucible have all stats normalised, or at least DPS balanced so that a high rof low impact will do the same dps as a high impact low rof. Then give everyone all skills for both subclasses unlocked in Crucible, and have a separate skill "loadout" for crucible so you don't have to keep changing back and forth. Maybe make some balancing on armour vs recovery since armour doesn't exist in crucible, but that probably isn't necessary. Then have Iron Banner just be setup the same as PvE is, except it's PvP.

Ok im fine with that in a way but iron banner isnt always on. Therefore we go to reg crucible, even if they add two separate modes and nerf the other it's still degrading it to cod and battlefield :/ and i personally don't want that i rather have them over power me sometimes rather than go back to those games. I think of it as a step forward you can try and prevail or fail and prevail you still get awards even if your on the bottom. More so there many ways one can get weapons and level up. Take my hunter for instance i got a rare hand cannon at lvl 10 which im still using and im lvl 16. For my warlock i haven't seen any rares till lvl 20. At lvl 10 i was recking people with it. I just don't want to revert it back to cod or battlefield i want to struggle and learn and become legend.

You still have abilities and supers though, it's just a level playing field now (assuming classes are balanced to each other anyway lol).