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9/16/2014 1:11:44 PM
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PVP is perfectly balanced IMO.
Okay so people cry about shotguns... They're only strong in melee range. That's fine.
Snipers are a 1 shot headshot... As they should be.
Let's talk supers. They're called SUPERS. They're supposed to guarantee kills.
Pretty much everything is fine IMO. If they kept it all as is, people will eventually adjust and realize it's perfectly balanced.
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3 RepliesNo shotguns OP and Fusion rifles OP spawning with snipers is all too much fire power off spawn if you die you should lose all special ammo.
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Im ok with 99% of pvp i just think there should be slightly less special ammo on the map, as people can run fusion rifle and shotgun non stop. theres nothing wrong with them, just less ammo would be nice as near nobody uses the primary
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I think its decently balanced, but you have to remember that (so far as I can tell) the upgrades are not balanced, meaning that a level 20+ player who most likely has upgrades on all of his gear, is going to play better. You have to pick your shotgun carefully, as if you have a more diverse shotgun, that has a lower impact stat, but higher ammo/range etc. you will most likely have trouble. The default damage for each type of weapon is balanced, and the impact stat allows different styles of that weapon to still be balanced.
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There are too many random variables for it be balanced. I could be completely dominating the other team only to be one shotted no saves by the worst player on the other team, just because they waited long enough to activate their Super. Where is the balance in that?
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Dear lord...you really think PvP is balanced? What about OP flux grenades? Or titans charge? You like supers?! The game as it is, is for filthy casuals. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. The multiplayer will never really be fun and balanced until they come out with a mode that gets rid of supers, OP dot grenades, titan charge, etc. Don't even get me started on the weapons. This game is seriously one of the most inconsistent games I've ever played. I love the single player, and the multiplayer has potential. They can keep the original mode for you filthy casuals. But for anyone who says the PvP is balanced, then you really don't know what balanced is.
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I think everyone's argument is that balanced should mean you can play with any weapon and succeed, but shotguns and fusion rifles are one shots at close range (even mid for fusion). And it defeats the purpose of other weapons
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13 RepliesWell you're not very smart are you.. Everyone having a shotgun OR a sniper is game breaking and makes using other weapons inferior. Most of the maps in this game HEAVILY favour close quarter this giving the shotgun an advantage. Not to mention the type of radar that's used also further benefits the shot gun user. Crouching to be off radar makes you unstoppable in most situations breaking all movement and use of any weapon. The game is basically a " crouch and wait around corner until your super is active then run out use your super the get back to a corner" kind of game.. Quite frankly it stinks.
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Everything is fine except fusion rifles... They either one shot kill or do piss poor damage they are too inconsistent
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Finally someone I can agree with about pvp!
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1 ReplyAbsolutely agree with you. I have had more fun in the crucible than I've even had in CoD or Battlefield. You have to understand how the game is played and how the meta is evolving. You are going to get killed period. How often is going to depend on your situational awareness and your ability to adapt to situations in the moment and the meta of the game. Is everyone rolling shotguns now? Well stay the hell away from those guys, bust out your hand cannon/scout rifle/pulse rifle, shoot'em in their head, and know that they may have buddies who are going to flank you and try to blast you to smithereens. The supers are a nice touch. It gives you the ability to turn the tide, but it gives them the same ability. Everyone has one. So, everyone is a threat. And people can miss. So, they aren't guaranteed kills. Plus...Titan Defender >_> nova bomb, fist of havok, golden gun are nothing to that shield. To those who are complaining: This is a new game, a new type. There are many similar to it but this one is set apart, different. Take a breath. Take some time. Learn how the game, as it stands, works. Please, slow down, smell the upgrades, and pop some dudes man. What are you doing on the forums ?
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Idk about perfect but it's pretty Damn close.
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Agreed
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I agree
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2 RepliesPeople bitching about shotguns are the idiots who go toe to toe with a rifle and wonder how the guy with a cqc weapon won
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Ya I agree. Perfectly balanced? No but it is balanced enough to be fun and if you think as long as you're skilled you can compete against a Auto Rifle with any other primary weapon.
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Edited by WTheRegulator: 9/17/2014 12:43:36 AMI agree with you EDIT:NO -blam!- THAT SHIT I THOUGHT THEY WERE OK TILL I PLAYED A GAME OF ROMBLE AND THE ENTIRE KILL FEED WAS SHOTGUNS AND THEY ARE NOT OHKOS IN MELEE RANGE THEY ARE OHKOS IN 3 OR 4 TIMES MELEE RANGE THIS SHIT HAS GOT TO STOP PLZ FIX THE OP SHOTGUNS PLZ
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29 RepliesMost maps are CQB, shotties (legendary and exotics) when upgraded can one shot in the close to medium range not just melee. Same goes with fusion rifles. PvP is filled with one hit kills. That takes skill of gunplay and mechanics out of it. Pulse and scout rifles are non-existent in PvP. Sniper (which is my favorite) you have to be a twitch and quick scope (which I can do, just takes some fun out). Anybody that argues that gun play is still there and the better shots win the battles is fooling themselves into thinking they are good. Shotguns (which I hate using in any FPS) are what you have to run with. There is to much special ammo on these maps to balance them allowing people to main with their secondary (special). Which shouldn't be the case.
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2 Repliesno one uses their primary weapon if they are smart. how is that a good thing
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1 ReplyAuto rifles are fine? Nope.
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I agree for the most part. There are always things that could be touched up a little. Grenades are a good example. Not game breaking unbalance, but a little work wouldn't hurt. That being said... I've seen a thread for just about every weapon type or special where the poster complains that it's op. [quote]Shotguns/Auto rifles are too powerful[/quote] Only close range; use a scout rifle or sniper. [quote]Snipers are too powerful[/quote] Only if the sniper is really skilled or you stand still for too long. Run in a zigzag pattern without jumping and use a pulse rifle. Just some simple examples. Point is, every complaint I've heard about unbalance has a counter. The problem is that the person getting rocked by shotguns runs close quarters in maps but doesn't like close quarters weapons. (again, example for the most common, but the concept applies to all) You're setting yourself up for that death, not the "unbalanced mechanics." [spoiler]I say this knowing perfectly well that I'm not that great at pvp in this game yet. But I fully accept that it's my bad and do not claim op supers or weapon types.[/spoiler]
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The problem I have with shotguns is that people abuse them. Close quarter maps don't give many options with entire teams running around with shotguns. Even on First Light, I've seen entire teams stay in the A-Flag building with shotties for the duration of the game. I don't understand the fascination with shotguns. They take no skill and pretty much ruin the game. Why bother playing?
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Perfectly balanced is a bit of an overstatement, but I agree with everything else listed above
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1 Reply"Perfectly balanced"? You must have little to no experience with arena shooters.
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You are just to ignorant to be aloud to post
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1 ReplyI agree. Its not bad its just different. No other fps gives you abilities like this. Someone supers you, you super them, both of you complain about it being OP. If you pit super-powered beings against each other its SUPPOSED to be chaotic. Its annoying, but thats the way its supposed to be. As for the shotguns and snipers: thats not a balancing issue, that's just people being annoying.
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3 RepliesIt's way better then Beta, now I can compete with my Pulse rifle.
