cool update, although the melee "fix" sounds the same..guess I just don't understand latency issues much. The Valentine's day hopper is just going to be 2 vs 2 Slayer games?? We already have double team...I don't get what's different. Oh, and freakin blacklist the annoying spammers that leave stupid posts just saying "First!!!!".....

YAY!!! an update that makes people fill there pants with joy!! this new melee system sounds great, then again, so did the current one....

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Malice514 I think Bungie's melee "fix" is just "band-aid" reaction to a flawed system. We've been waiting months for a good fix to come out and you give us this crap, in effect, making very specific but minute changes which will not make the problem disappear. This is bull. The melee is BY FAR the worst thing about Halo 3. Disregarding the slow walking speed, the slow pace of changing weapons and pulling out equipment, the melee eclipses them by gargantuan portions. This is not a satisfactory result from months of waiting. Why not make the melee like Halo 2? It is stupid not to make it like the old game since very few people had problems with the melee. WHOEVER MELEES FIRST SHOULD WIN. I don't care what you say. Even if you had host advantage, it was still easy for player to adapt (especially good players) to the change latency from one game to the next. Now you have some stupid joust, or "contest" whatever the hell that means? This does not make any sense at all. Unless there is some "ulterior motive" like the physics being compromised or some other GOOD REASON, you should return to Halo 2's melee version. It was better system with fewer complexities that you could get used to in gameplay. H2's melee also made the gameplay more fast paced and realistic because honestly if you punch a guy first in the real world he is going to go down first or incur more damage (all things being equal) than the later puncher who has lost momentum and power from getting hit first - effectively bring their shield down sooner and killing them sooner. I used to be very good with the melee in Halo 2 and now I get my attack maybe half of the time in Halo 3. You guys really disappointed me with this update. I will wait and see how the melee turns out to be "fixed," but any version that uses "invisible health" and those with a lower shield to determine a winner is a stupid system. I also don't like the idea of having to go in and press "Good Connection" for every game, it was annoying enough having to go in and change it every time I changed playlists. Now it resets and I have to change that every time? Man, "disappointing," you guys really let me down. Oh and thanks for making the new maps free for everyone even though we all paid $75 for the game already. F'ed up.[/quote] Wow you have been waiting for months for a new melee? Thats odd because when the announced they were going to fix melee they specificly said they were not going to change it they were just going to get rid of a few bugs. You abviously dont understand the the melee system as they just explained it at all. 1)If you obviously hit melee first you will win 2)If 2 people hit melee at the same time the one with more health will win 3)if the 2 people have an unnoticable difference in health and melee at the same time they will both die Sounds fair to me Yes like most people I was use to the H2 melee and i do still play H2 every once in a while The H2 melee was much simpler, not better, it was unfair by a longshot. Host domminated just like with the shotgun. Halo 3 is a new game with a new way to play get use to playing fair or go back to halo 2 where host has a huge advantage and glitching is part of being good.

I just wanted to say, especially to lukems that this weeks Weekly Update about the bug fixes in the upcoming update had to be one of my favorite ones. I found the entire thing to be very interesting, especially since this (video game/computer programming) is the kinda career I'm looking to do when I get outa high school. You others who will probably mock my post, don't bother, this wasn't meant for you, I just wanted to say I liked the Update and would love to see more like it, if at all possible. Thanks (great game too! lol). ~Andrew P.S. Note to Godzilla, calm down dude. It's called CHARITY, you raise money and then DONATE it to them. Besides they will probably sell for more than you think since its for a CHARITY. jeeze.

I [u]love[/u] the crazy in-human melee that sends people flying, please don't get rid of it.

Ugh, damn Frankie! Make something that will ACTUALLY sell at an auction! How much do you expect that cheesy thing to go for? Take charity seriously man!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SharpShot1512 The forge hopper is going to be awesome! Hope my map's on there How much you wanna bet that [u]everyone[/u] will haf the commando shoulders on when they fixed [/quote] I'll take that bet.

thanks for an update with content. finally.

The forge hopper is going to be awesome! Hope my map's on there How much you wanna bet that [u]everyone[/u] will haf the commando shoulders on when they fixed

Nice update!! AND MEELEEY IZ FIXED!!! Although I was looking forewad to a picture of Cottonball.

Will this auto update affect films or film clips that were recorded previously?

wow great explanation tho it seems not everybody gets it... [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] evil elf hacker I would prefer the halo 2 melee myself, but I'm glad they are actually fixing it.[/quote] anyway new maps sound great whats the release date? (hope u sell that Mister Chief for lots of money could really help BMF)

Ok well if you're not making any physical changes to the BR you should increase the size of the Reticle to about the size of the H2 BR. I'm sick of getting a false sense of range and aiming. [Edited on 02.08.2008 7:31 PM PST]

I can has recon?

Very interesting article. Great update and actually on time!

Best Update Ever. Good Job.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primoboy360 I dont fully understand the melee thing But I still think they need it to be the FIRST ONE WHO PULLS THE TRIGGER IS THE ONE WHO WINS. It's like....just they way it needs to be[/quote] did you read the update? The problem is, with online play there is no clear "First One" They have to make it fairer for those people that don't get host. In H2, the few times I got host I would win by 20 kills. Although it was fun, it wasn't fair.

I think Bungie's melee "fix" is just "band-aid" reaction to a flawed system. We've been waiting months for a good fix to come out and you give us this crap, in effect, making very specific but minute changes which will not make the problem disappear. This is bull. The melee is BY FAR the worst thing about Halo 3. Disregarding the slow walking speed, the slow pace of changing weapons and pulling out equipment, the melee eclipses them by gargantuan portions. This is not a satisfactory result from months of waiting. Why not make the melee like Halo 2? It is stupid not to make it like the old game since very few people had problems with the melee. WHOEVER MELEES FIRST SHOULD WIN. I don't care what you say. Even if you had host advantage, it was still easy for player to adapt (especially good players) to the change latency from one game to the next. Now you have some stupid joust, or "contest" whatever the hell that means? This does not make any sense at all. Unless there is some "ulterior motive" like the physics being compromised or some other GOOD REASON, you should return to Halo 2's melee version. It was better system with fewer complexities that you could get used to in gameplay. H2's melee also made the gameplay more fast paced and realistic because honestly if you punch a guy first in the real world he is going to go down first or incur more damage (all things being equal) than the later puncher who has lost momentum and power from getting hit first - effectively bring their shield down sooner and killing them sooner. I used to be very good with the melee in Halo 2 and now I get my attack maybe half of the time in Halo 3. You guys really disappointed me with this update. I will wait and see how the melee turns out to be "fixed," but any version that uses "invisible health" and those with a lower shield to determine a winner is a stupid system. I also don't like the idea of having to go in and press "Good Connection" for every game, it was annoying enough having to go in and change it every time I changed playlists. Now it resets and I have to change that every time? Man, "disappointing," you guys really let me down. Oh and thanks for making the new maps free for everyone even though we all paid $75 for the game already. F'ed up.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] s4ndp4p3rm4n ...Now what about the Security shoulder glitch?[/quote] It would be nice to hear something about this. The silence makes me wonder if Bungie even knows about it...

One of the greatest updates ever. Great, thought-out information about the melee fix, a special valentines day playlist, info about the new maps, custom hoppers and kick ass halo 3 pictures? OH MAN! I can't wait to see the fixes, play on the new maps, and from the description of Cottonball, it made me smile so much. I think everyone pretty much knows what we map this is. THANK YOU BUNGIE. You truly do listen to the fans, and it shows. You guys are awesome, keep up the good work and you better put Griffball in that custom games hopper! See you online!

thank you for the good, informative update.

Third page! Woohoo! Suck it noobs! [/sarcasm] Seriously Bungie, I about crapped myself this morning when I saw the update. Glad you enjoyed the pics! They are your brain-children. [Edited on 02.08.2008 7:00 PM PST]

3rd page not bad

Well, where do I begin... I never went to school with Brian, but I lived in his area, and was in 9th grade when cancer took him. Although I had never been close to him, I was close with his brother, and I felt the impact of Ewings Sarcoma pretty close. Brian Morden helped contribute to some of the voices for Halo 2 (look at the credits... you'll se he helped), and I remember he did that for his make a wish. He was a great kid, and it's hard to believe it's already been 5 years. So, as a close family friend and firm supporter of this organization, I thank Frankie for donating to a great cause. We must beat Ewings Sarcoma (and any cancer for that matter!), and this is certainly helping. Onto the game... the melee fix is certainly great... you will still get rants about it, I'm sure, but now it's definitely more fair, so that the one that does considerably more damage will get the kill, or it will end up in a tie. I also can't wait to put my commando shoulders on my elite :) Finally, I'm even more excited for the new maps... just a picture... please?

finally a melee fix