That's like a high school Bball player that loves Bball but Hates NBA..
I hate how it's casual vs. competitive (hardcore) players in the forums..
Shouldn't we be helping each other to make a game that we all love to be better?
How can private matches hurt or spoil the fun for casual gamers?
Edit: well at least we ALL agree, that private matches won't hurt anyone by adding it to the game. Thank you for the posts, I have a bigger understanding for both sides.
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<implying only casual gamers complain about MLG. More often than not they're douchebags, people who think they're god among men at a game. And if you beat them, the reaction is often hilarious.
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Not being into MLG competitive multiplayer doesn't make someone a "casual". Playing only mobile games like Candy Crush does.
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Why are you referring to people that don't partake in MLG casual? When you have a game like destiny that is using a mmo pve approach you can't say that only the PvP players are hardcore. You will find that a person that enjoys raids will put just as much, if not more, effort into the game.
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A lot of MLG players have a history of being entitled, self-important, neck-beardy snobs that have no respect for the artistic vision of developers and think they know whats best for everyone that plays the game. They whine and gripe until games are nerfed to oblivion and watered down to a shell of what they once were. Casuals like to play good games and have fun, and get irritated when pro players start acting like Gods and taking the fun aspect out of the game.
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I could ask the same question, why do hardcore players hate casuals? Not that Destiny is an MMO, but in most cases if someone has never done something before, and asks nicely, they are either booted, or someone rage quits. Very rarely do people actual give advice or helps the person.
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First of all, MLG is a company. It is only used in this forum because it spawned an entire community of viewers through Halo. I am confused if you are specifically referring to MLG or Esports in general. I personally don't like MLG because they go where the money goes and don't really show a lot of passion for content.
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Because we are tryhards bra
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Why do you assume hardcore players are just here for pvp bullshit? Please don't assume that everyone who isn't a filthy casual, is a god damn major league try hard, like the CoD dudebros. That said, I also want private matches
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For example, something that ruined CoD is drop shoting. Going prone should be COMPLETELY removed from the game because of it. How many of the great MLG players started out doing that? Too many to count
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I'm a hardcore but I still hate MLG.
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Games were made for entertainment to begin with. A video game is firstly just a form of relaxation. Something a player can do in the comfort of his/ her own home. Something a person can do without too many hassles. Once you make that overly competitive it looses the relaxing, carefree feel. It becomes something people practice, and purchase stupid modded controllers. It's pretty ridiculous how people consider a video game to be that important. 100 dollar controller? Crazy. I love competing in PVP matches, and I also enjoy PVE a lot. Doesn't mean that I'm a hardcore gamer. My point is PVP is just enough competition to have fun for a match that lasts a few minutes, then go about my business. Instead of a 3 day tournie that pits your team against 45 other teams. Seriously, WTF man. Play the game, have some fun. Meet up with some friends and have a beer, not meet up and practice for 7 months for the next Contest.
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I don't hate anyone.
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Cause mlg are also casuals
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Whats mlg...?
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I think there's a common misperception that they are some sort of tryhards who don't enjoy playing games unless they defeat you so hard that your body is found 6 THOUSAND feet under with no chance of respawning Also, people think MLG wants to turn every game into something like CS where there are no variables at all except skill level
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Because many people see MLG participants as people who take the game way too seriously. While not all of them are that bad, it's always the worst ones that will stand out; which can be said for any sort of group/organization/etc.
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I have always been a mixed bag between Casual and competitive. The best way i could put it is, Il try my absolute best to get a good score while still having fun. A good example of this for me would be. -"Doing old Russia's strike on Hard and aiming for a high score but still having a good time doing so" All this nonsense about competitive vs casuals is just plain silly. In the end were just different types of gamers who play in different ways. Even the most competitive of players will tell you that 3 months of training and loads of getting annoyed in game was there way of "Having fun". And the casual players will tell you that "Sitting on the couch with a coke, a few mates and two Xbox's on a Saturday night and just doing a few rounds on Halo 5 guardians" is there way of "having fun".. And there is nothing wrong with either of them because every person has there own play-style and opinion on what's fun. The only time that either of these really crosses the line is when a Competitive player is so obsessed with winning that fun is not a factor, Cheating, kicking other players to get you're mates in and being rude to other players for not following you're direct orders over in game chat are some of the many examples of competitive gaming crossing the line. And then we have the Casual line crossers that Betray there team, completely ignore the games objective and act like complete children in game. P.S MLG is not a type of gamer, MLG is technically a Brand in gaming where the most competitive of players go to get a new challenge and earn rewards for there work. MLG has been known to take in pretty mature competitive players who follow the rules and don't cross the line will still maintaining there professional and aggressive person's in game, But even this iconic name in gaming has got its group of obsessed Elitists over the years.
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Because everyone who prefers the campaign/non-PvP content is called a "casual" by those who play PvP nearly exclusively. I tend to play on the higher difficulties in Hardcore mode in Diablo 3, does that still make me a "casual"? I go for 100% completion in [i]every[/i] RPG I play. Guess that still makes me a "casual", huh? Maybe if MLG gamers could start referring to everyone who games as a gamer and not a "casual", I might begin to care about it.
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One game in particular ruined by overly competitive is Super Smash Bros. Seriously half the fun is the turn of a friendly card with the item system- but nope let's eliminate any chance and all wave dash with no other way to play otherwise it's not good enough for us.
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Are you suggesting that anyone who doesn't play hardcore competitive PvP is a casual? Because I assure you, I'm totally hardcore about PvE.
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private matches won't hurt anyone.
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Did it work?
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Shouldn't the question be: Why do MLG gamers hate casuals?
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Because as soon as something changes in the game, whether it be through a patch or in a sequel, they are the first to piss and moan about it.
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mlg hate casuals because casuals are badkids casuals hate mlg because they are bad and then im in the middle not giving a -blam!-
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Edited by RyjinSama: 8/16/2014 7:57:42 AMBecause casual players don't often use their mics... And when they do, they don't speak in either a redneck accent or a prepubescent squeak about how you are a -blam!- or how they -blam!-ed your mom...[spoiler]i said words that sound like feggit and feked [/spoiler]