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If projectiles ever fired anywhere near the speed of a laser (the speed of light), then its mass would become infinite and it'd create a singularity. Lasers don't really have an effective range, since they go in a straight line until they hit something, or they attenuate after a certain point (which never seems to be an issue in sci-fi). Although Halo is a good example of the two, since the UNSC held their own for a while with MAC's and missiles rather than lasers or plasma.
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  • no it wouldn't, it starts to leave time because we can't tell what its doing because it cannot be seen because there is no light on it. We would only see the past of it like the star that exploded 1 billion years ago and we just saw the flash this year

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  • They didn't. The UNSC required multiple MAC rounds to even take down the shields of a Covenant warship. They had to be outnumbering it 3:1 to have a chance at taking one down. Missiles are useless: 99% of missiles launched at a covenant ship would be destroyed by its plasma cannons (A plasma torpedo was 100metres in diameter) and te remaining one percent would do little to no damage. The UNSC were lucky that the covenant were systematically wiping out their colonies as opposed to going to the Homeworld. The only effective defence was a MKV Super MAC cannon (Aka Cairo station ODP's) and they were very few- Earth had 300, and Reach (The main military base) only had 20. Once they went down, the UNSC was hopeless. Tl;Dr- the UNSC's weaponry was nowhere near adequate to take on the covenant. They got lucky that they later as long as they did.

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  • I never said it was on par, just that they held their own for a while. There are numerous examples in the books of the UNSC taking on the Covenant in space battles and coming out on top. Though your post is still in agreement with mine, that lasers (as envisioned in sci-fi) are far superior to projectiles.

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  • The books only show the minuscule battles where the UNSC won- usually through heavily outnumbering a covenant fleet. The UNSC lost hundreds of worlds compared to a handful which they defended. The books show only the minute amount of wins, but heavily describe how badly the UNSC was losing (Fter Reach, ONI predicted humanity ha weeks at best before total extinction) That is definitely not holding their own.

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  • I think it's important to note that moving an object near the speed of light only makes it act as if it has infinite mass. It would not actually have infinite mass nor would it create a singularity. As speed increases, so does the energy needed to accelerate it more, despite no increase in mass. At just below c, it would take an infinite amount of energy to accelerate it to c, thus it acts as if it has infinite mass.

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  • I'm pretty sure there have been magnetic rounds that have gone past Mach 5. And even if they aren't FTL, then they're pretty damn close to it.

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  • Did you just compare mach 5 to nearly being FTL?

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  • No, I'm saying its closer to light speed than most weapons we have.

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  • OK. I see what you mean, it's just not quite what you said :P

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  • 0.0000057% the speed of light

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