Until I play the raid myself I'm not buying the difficulty. I'm sure there are other games you could use to compare destiny too but the closest in my mind is borderlands. Unless they completely revolutionize fps pve I don't see it being as hard as they say. Borderlands had some hard moments but I haven't really heard too much about that game being impossible for anybody. All that being said destiny hasn't released and and we won't know till we play. Edit. Whole point was I wouldn't be surprised if good players could bs their way through. This isn't wow with a massive amount if abilities and passive ones