[quote]Normalized means that "x" weapon type has "y" set damage. Right?[/quote]yes that's exactly what it means all assault rifles had the same damage in matchmaking except in iron banner where your guns do there actual damage. On a side note rather than right a separate post I'll just add this to it. The guns are fine. I was killed by a variety if weapons. This includes the shotgun sniper scout rifle and the pr as well as the auto rifle and before people say I suck I was usually in the top player or the second top player and I'd average over 6000 score if I didn't play with friends so I'm not bad. Everyone just doesn't like the idea of a level 8 assault rifle doing it's job. When the game comes out there will be a larger selection of guns so the gun your complaining about might not even be the best level 8 assault rifle when the game launches. Also I didn't use the shingen c I used the Galahad B but fought people with both the Galahad c and shingen c. It was a beta chill out everyone furthermore you guys are all acting like bungie will be like these 2 guns dominated pvp we should leave them alone if those 2 guns are really a big deal that dominated everything they will be balanced out bungie isn't retarded Guys if it needs a tweak it will be tweaked

So much this

I like the way you think. But for beta it was op