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1/5/2008 1:35:46 AM
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Bungie Weekly Update: 1/04/08
Happy New Year! We're back with some tidbits about new maps and some helpful information for [i]new [/i]Halo 3 owners.
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please fix the melee issue. it should go to the person who hit the button first, not who has the most damage. Fix armor issues. [u] Valhalla is Blood Gulch/Congulation. [/u] [u] Guardian is Lockout [/u] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] skulshok I've been doing some reading about the armor permutations and how to unlock them. There are problems I have found: 1. You have already mentioned the Elite's Commando shoulders 2. The problem with the Spartan's Security shoulders. There seems to be no guranteed way to unlock them (my brother seems to have randomly unlocked them, but the methods of unlocking them for myself have all failed) and there is also no way to ensure once you have them unlocked that they will stay unlocked (an issue my friend had). Thanks for your help. -skulshok[/quote] [Edited on 01.17.2008 7:33 PM PST]
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I've been doing some reading about the armor permutations and how to unlock them. There are problems I have found: 1. You have already mentioned the Elite's Commando shoulders 2. The problem with the Spartan's Security shoulders. There seems to be no guranteed way to unlock them (my brother seems to have randomly unlocked them, but the methods of unlocking them for myself have all failed) and there is also no way to ensure once you have them unlocked that they will stay unlocked (an issue my friend had). Thanks for your help. -skulshok
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Heathen Kaizen Technically you could be a level 50 in Team Slayer and a level 1 in Lone Wolves if you hadn't played it yet. I've had the advantage and disadvantage of playing lower ranked people and higher ranked people due to this. I was a 36 in Lone Wolves and then started playing with friends more in Team Slayer, but I was a 10 there, but 36 for highest achieved skill. I think that something more should be done to even those games out. Maybe an average skill level or something that combines your highest skill with your current skill level on whatever matchmaking list you're playing on. Few more things: The lunging melee. I know and understand how it happens with the sword, but it's unacceptable for someone with an AR, Mauler, Needler, Plasma Pistol, etc. to lunge 10 feet and melee. It hasn't happened in such a way ever in a Halo game and that's because it's ridiculous. [/quote] Something definitely needs to be done to avoid situations like mine (with people having twice the skill level of other players). An average between the two would certainly be a good idea. At the very [i]very[/i] least, the numbers should be kept seperate. You know, like saying "Highest Team skill achieved:46 Highest Lone Wolves skill achieved: 21 Current Team skill: 44 Current Lone Wolves skill: 21" If it was possible to only show one or the other depending on what playlist they're on(so only show team numbers if I click on their name while playing on the Teams playlist), that would be even better. And I definitely agree with the melee lunge thing. I thought it was just a fluke when someone did that to me-especially since when he did it, the plasma grenade I had clearly stuck to him fell off and exploded six feet behind him. [Edited on 01.13.2008 9:53 AM PST]
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[quote]1) Look @ sales records & rates for Halo 2 v Halo 3. That should indicate which is 'better.'[/quote] While I agree with everything you said, Tiki, I believe that Halo 3 is better than Halo 2 for its gameplay and far superior campaign. Just because it's made a ton more money than the other titles doesn't necessarily guarantee quality. Anyone remember that the Godzilla remake made over $400 million? Sales don't equate to quality because as I'm sure you're aware, a lot of people are morons. Besides that one detail, I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments though. Even though 'twat' is little harsh. Good day everyone. : )
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And the post above me was hilarious might I add
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Yeah i know I'm a big n00b but I didn't catch if the maps were free or if you had to pay for them like the Heroic Map pack. Could anyone help me out?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkShotgun In most ways, I still think Halo 2>Halo 3. Halo 3 doesn't have very many small maps, and it lacks one of the things that made h2 great for competitive play: weapon glitches. Plus, the number 1 problem that that could be fixed easiest: hardcore isn't hardcore anymore. In halo 2, hardcore was the competitive players dream, with settings proscribed by MLG focusing on map control and teamwork, and it made camping unrewarding and an illogical waste of time. In halo 3, hardcore is a esteemed but terrible playlist stricken with large maps, poor weapon balance and large amounts of camping. The level and quality of play that I've enjoyed since I played my first game of Halo CE in spring 2004 just isn't there anymore. To tell the truth, I've been experimenting with playing many other games online. COD4 looks to be a good alternate. Ill stick it out for a bit longer, but the aspects of Halo 3 I mentioned above need a complete overhaul.[/quote] 1) Look @ sales records & rates for Halo 2 v Halo 3. That should indicate which is 'better.' Plus, Halo 2 had no campaign ending; how could that possibly be 'better.' Or perhaps you simply overlooked campaign and immediately jumped into multiplayer because you're so very cranky about a recent and embarrassing loss to a 'bunch of noobs.' 2) Weapons glitches don't make a game 'better,' mostly because they are, in fact, glitches. Now I will admit that I was a whore when it came to BXR and RRX, but there is a reason why they are called glitches. Eventually, when MLG gears over to Halo 3, weapons glitches will be found, and sadly, will be utilized in gameplay 3) Larger maps generally require even more teamwork than smaller maps because a) in regards to map control, there is more map area to control and b) there is a greater distance to be covered in regards to objective games, ie: flag, bomb. 4) I believe that there was a recent poll that proved that most people thought camping was a legit technique. In fact last time I remember it was 78% saying that camping is ok. 5) You refer to playing other games as 'experimenting.' Oh my, do your parents know of this? Does your shrink know? I can't help you unless you admit you need help. Your a dirty boy, aren't you? 6) In regards to your valiant effort of 'sticking it out,' I'm afraid that no one will commend you on you deed because the fact of the matter is that most of us could care less whether or not you 'stick it out.' Sorry ,but today I just had to lay it out on someone... DarkShotgun, you just got dumped on. Congrats, twat.
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Does anybody know an ETA for AU1?
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In most ways, I still think Halo 2>Halo 3. Halo 3 doesn't have very many small maps, and it lacks one of the things that made h2 great for competitive play: weapon glitches. Plus, the number 1 problem that that could be fixed easiest: hardcore isn't hardcore anymore. In halo 2, hardcore was the competitive players dream, with settings proscribed by MLG focusing on map control and teamwork, and it made camping unrewarding and an illogical waste of time. In halo 3, hardcore is a esteemed but terrible playlist stricken with large maps, poor weapon balance and large amounts of camping. The level and quality of play that I've enjoyed since I played my first game of Halo CE in spring 2004 just isn't there anymore. To tell the truth, I've been experimenting with playing many other games online. COD4 looks to be a good alternate. Ill stick it out for a bit longer, but the aspects of Halo 3 I mentioned above need a complete overhaul.
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i will more than likely break my halo 3 disk and start playing call of duty 4 if they make it so you cant get out of the maps any more
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I think if O.K. Corral is a remake of Hang Em High/Tombstone it's going to be along the lines of a remake (revisioning) like Guardian is to Lockout or Valhalla is to Blood Gulch. Same for Purple Reign. I can hear the nerd cries now. It would be great if the new maps debuted in March. I'd love Bungie even more if we were to get at least 3 different sets of DL content a year. Keep in mind all of those don't have to be new multiplayer maps, but things like new armor permutations, colors, vehicles, weapons, etc. would be just as welcome.
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[i]Stuff[/i] and [i]Things[/i]. Sweet ! Those are my favorite !
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ballisticzOne does any body know exactly when the new levels come out ?[/quote] My guess is March or April, around the same time the most recent maps are becoming free. They need to bring in Infinity from Halo PC. That would make a great map for Halo3, and there would be enough room to put a hornet and/ or Scorpion in somewhere and still keep it balanced. My guess though is that Frankies new idea is Sidewinder. Wooo!
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does any body know exactly when the new levels come out ?
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Ok well, after I discovered that the codenames for the maps in the heroic map pack were actually descriptors of the maps, I did my research on these two maps. O.K. Corral was actually an infamous gunfight that took place in TOMBSTONE, Arizona. That has got to be the Hang Em' High / Tombstone remake, although I am confused by the weird dome with bright God Ray's shining through in the map's center that you mentioned in the update. As far as Purple Reign goes though, you have me thoroughly confused; Purple Reign was that Prince movie from the 80's, right? I would really hope you don't have to fight a smally crazy black man on a motorcycle. Haha. Seriously though, if Purple Reign was a small, competitive map, I would have to guess that it's a Midship remake. I know how often Midship was used for MLG competitions and, if Purple Reign was indeed a re-make, it sounds like you're describing Midship in the update. I am puzzled though by the one-way windows; can't wait to be suprised with the maps. Good luck and keep up the good work! [Edited on 01.09.2008 4:14 PM PST]
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Technically you could be a level 50 in Team Slayer and a level 1 in Lone Wolves if you hadn't played it yet. I've had the advantage and disadvantage of playing lower ranked people and higher ranked people due to this. I was a 36 in Lone Wolves and then started playing with friends more in Team Slayer, but I was a 10 there, but 36 for highest achieved skill. I think that something more should be done to even those games out. Maybe an average skill level or something that combines your highest skill with your current skill level on whatever matchmaking list you're playing on. Few more things: The lunging melee. I know and understand how it happens with the sword, but it's unacceptable for someone with an AR, Mauler, Needler, Plasma Pistol, etc. to lunge 10 feet and melee. It hasn't happened in such a way ever in a Halo game and that's because it's ridiculous. Valhalla is Gulch even though it plays different and looks the most drastically different. It's description says, "The crew of V-398 barely survived their unplanned landing in this curious gorge" and while I love Blood Gulch more than Valhalla or Coagulation I don't think it's likely to be remade unfortunately. Sidewinder remade sounds awesome, but only if there are TELEPORTERS used and not man cannons to get to those far spots. While I'm at it I might as well say I miss the Halo: Combat Evolved pistol because it was a weapon of elegance and grace and if you were any good it wasn't that it was too powerful - it was perfect.
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u need lockout and a map witha hornet
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guardian is verrrrrrry roughly a green lockout the gameplay of the acutual lockout was a lot better
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You start out at Level 1 on every playlist, no matter what. And what is so hard to comprehend about [i][b]GUARDIAN IS A GREEN LOCKOUT[/b][/i]? [Edited on 01.08.2008 10:32 PM PST]
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Working on an arena map!? That is music to my ears. I've been waiting for an arena map for Halo 3 since release. I'm not even worried if it's going to be good or not because if there's any kind of map Bungie knows how to make flawlessly it's arena maps. I mean has Bungie ever made a bad arena map? Hell no. Derelict: Amazing! Wizard/Warlock: Beast! Midship: Godly! [i]Damn these maps need to be remade, at least 2 of them because all of them are flawless.[/i] The only kind of maps we need now are competitive styles asymmetrical maps. Like Chill Out, Ivory Tower, and Lockout. OK Corral just might fill up this void! I'm excited. Also I hope Frankie's favorite map was Sidewinder because if that's remade I may die of happiness. Kill me Bungie!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ace Bond Hello Grand Puba's of Halo One suggestion for an update I would like to see become a reality is to find a way to show what level our friends are in the friends list. If we are set to Team Slayer then show what each friend is in Team Slayer in the friend list. It gets frusterating to invite a friend to a doubles game only to find I am a level 4 and my friend is a level 30, or as is...I am a level 29 in Team Slayer and one friend is a level 10. I hate it when a RL friend accepts and invite into my room and I have to tell them that they can't play with me 'cause their level sucks at the moment. Thanx for your time Ace Bond (age 38)[/quote] That's similar to something I was going to ask. The other day I, a level 25(now 27), was thrown in a Slayer match with three players with skill levels over [b]40.[/b] Well, technically, it said their "highest skill reached" was over 40, but their current skill was 20-something. Needless to say, they pretty much smashed myself and the two other lower level players, completely ruining the game for me. I assumed they had purposely lost games to drop their skill so they could have some fun demolishing people, and told them so. Two of them responded, claiming that the 40 skill level was for Team games, and was totally different from Lone Wolves. So, my question is this: If someone plays a ton of team games and moves up to a skill level of 40, what happens when they decide to switch to Lone Wolves? Does the matchmaking system still see them as 40, or do they have to start at zero and work their way up again? Is it possible for someone to have a skill level of 40 in Team games but a skill level of only 25 in Lone Wolves? If [i]you[/i] aren't really that good, but your [i]team[/i] wins, do you get skill points?
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if they have red vs blue on here, how come they dont put all of the red vs blue on here, including the new zune one, which i never got... anyways does anyone know where to find and download it off the internet? [Edited on 01.08.2008 7:10 PM PST]
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First when Purple Reign was described i had flahsing images of Midship... purple... but it sounds larger and more closed off (in the bases) . Secondly, I am praying that this "Frank" has favorited Lockout, like the other 95% of H2 players. If so im excited because If i heard of a Lockout remake I would be extatic. That might have been Guardian's purpose by its enjoyment level is not quite up to par with Lockout. The End
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You know what I really want to see is some more armor pieces for both the elite and spartan.
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when are those newmaps supposed to be out?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CyberJezus i wanna know when the update will be released. anyone know?[/quote] well after what happen last time they told us the date of something coming out people freaked out like hardcore wasnt out it took another day people complained so now they have decided to be more sneaky and not tell us when its coming out
