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Boycott For Marty

[i]CLARIFICATION: This is really a pursuit of truth. Neither Bungie nor Marty has told us everything. The way I see it, the ball is in Bungie's court. Marty can claim they fired him "without cause" but that just doesn't happen. The higher-ups at Bungie definitely did have a reason for firing him, but given that they've sat on the news for nearly a week and then tossed a tiny "wish you well" note once Marty scooped them, they are hiding something. This call for a boycott is merely a vehicle to obtain that truth.[/i] [b][u]ORIGINAL POST[/u][/b] Here's my take on this unfolding fiasco Bungie finds themselves in: The rank-and-file might know, and certainly care, more than Deej is letting on concerning Marty's release. However, orders from on-high are to keep this quiet, on pain of termination. I don't think any board of directors goes on their forums to get the reactions of the fans and act accordingly. I personally don't trust people with that much power in any given situation, and this is exactly why. So how do we convince the executives to make this right at least by us and tell us a fuller, truer story? We put our money where our mouth is, and boycott Destiny in every form until they deign to share the truth with the true highest power in the economy: the customers. Refuse to play the beta. This will pain everyone involved, players and programmers. But we're already in pain, and if you play the beta, you are accepting the idea that executives can treat us this way and get away with it; that we're nothing but loyal dogs who instantly come running when called and given a treat. We're not their bitches. So prove it. If you're like me and have yet to preorder, don't. If you really want to hurt them, cancel your existing preorder. Again, we're not their dogs. The ultimate power rests in the customers holding the company responsible. Don't play anything out of the Bungie store. No t-shirts, no hoodies, no other merchandise or swag. Refuse, until Bungie levels with us like they ought to have from the beginning. "But Otter, if this takes off and the boycott takes a wide effect, won't that hurt people who weren't involved in this? That isn't right either." You're absolutely right. Here's the problem: after decades of priding themselves as being an unconventional, casual company, Bungie's board of directors has revealed they are no different than any corporate board you might despise. And they speak only one language: money. If they want to risk their company and the innocent employees on covering up the truth, that is on them, not us. And realistically, Bungie employees will get picked up elsewhere or form another start-up, because they are the best of the best in the industry. We shouldn't have to accept this from the legendary company that brought us some of the best games in the decade, and brought us together as a community we named ourselves in their honor. And if you want to honor Marty O'Donnell, who had a direct hand in creating "the Bungie experience" we all know and love, then join me in making a stand for the truth. Boycott. For Marty, and for tru7h.

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    I would cancel my preorder if I'd actually made one. This makes it 10000000000000000000000x less likely for me to preorder Density. It's a shame because it's going to be great, but they can't just axe Marty and think it's all going to be smiles and sunshine.

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  • http://destiny.bungie.org/files/marty-after-bungie/ Marty still has part ownership in Bugie. So by boycotting Bungie or Destiny we hurt Marty himself. He says he wants Bungie and the team to do great. So why on earth would ANYONE boycott ANYTHING to do with Bungie or Destiny??????

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  • Marty helped make both bungie and the music for Destiny FYI. He did his job. Boycotting bungie is like pissing on Marty's baby. Lol don't do it.

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  • This is the dumbest damn idea I've ever read. Please stop.

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  • Ok , I can understand why people are pissed at Bungie. They fired the guy that helped make Halo what it was , but what would doing this archive ? Treads like this , in my opinion , should be deleted because the hate on Bungie (and Deej) is unneeded and quite frankly , pathetic.

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  • lol no

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  • In today's BWU, Urk took the reins. And refused to even mention Marty by name. [quote]We know what you want to ask us. We wish we could help you make sense of what’s going on. Sometimes saying nothing is the only right thing to do. Sometimes saying nothing is the hardest thing to do. [/quote] There really isn't anything hard about the truth, except to admit fault. I of all people know that best. I'm really disappointed in you, Bungie. And no doubt your future with Destiny will be bright. But it will not be a future I take part in. Farewell, Bungie. Thanks for the memories.

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  • For a company to publicly disclose the reason of someone's firing would be to invite lawsuit against them. It's not the public's interest and, if the rumors are true, I'm frankly on Bungie's side.

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    • Okay, can someone explain to me who Marty O'Donnell is and how he was important to Bungie? Why did they fire him? And why is everyone so pissed?

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      • Spoken like a true spin doctor... [quote] Here's my take on this unfolding fiasco Bungie finds themselves in: The rank-and-file might know, and certainly care, more than Deej is letting on concerning Marty's release. However, orders from on-high are to keep this quiet, on pain of termination.[/quote] This story is just that; a story. [quote] I don't think any board of directors goes on their forums to get the reactions of the fans and act accordingly. I personally don't trust people with that much power in any given situation, and this is exactly why.[/quote] Do you really think that any self-respecting professional company determines the ultimate fate of their employees by posting a poll on their forums ? [quote] If they want to risk their company and the innocent employees on covering up the truth, that is on them, not us.[/quote] Consider the following ultimatum...: I have a gun on your friend's head, and tell you that if you do not kill the president, I will kill your friend. If you don't kill the president, who is to blame for your friend's death ?

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      • Don't think Marty, as he is still a stockholder, wants Bungie to perform poorly.

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      • Edited by Legend To None: 4/17/2014 6:54:37 AM
        Yes let's boycott Marty's music [i][b]to[/b][/i] support Marty...He worked on Music as much as everyone made the game. Grow up

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      • Signed. This has shown me that Bungie has lost their touch

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      • all you guys saying this wont work are wrong i was all in the bioware forums during the mass effect 3 debacle and dissenters all swore that the backlash was useless ..it wasnt since a revised ending and fan service dlc was the result boycott the beta and we'll have our answers

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      • I'm sorry to say, but I don't think Boycotting Destiny will do any good for anyone. We want the truth, so we ask for it, no use boycotting a game that, Marty himself put hours into, I reckon he'd want us to play it too. But if we don't get the truth before release, yeah I guess, boycott it. [i]Tip of the Spear [/i]

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      • No, this will not solve anything. This is between Marty and Bungie, not us. Yes, we're fans and want to know more which we have every right to want, but boycotting their game solves nothing. This is a private matter, don't try making things worse.

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        • Signed.

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        • I'm hoping the Mail sack will shed more light on this, I also expect a lot of people submitting questions on this matter.

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          • I'm considering.

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          • I find the lack of Marty Love in the Destiny forums disturbing.

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          • I shall…

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          • If boycotting the beta thing gains some momentum I'll probably do it as well. I can wait. This is much more important.

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          • I am glad someone else had this idea. I will gladly boycott destiny.

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          • Until more information was released on why exactly he was fired, my pre-order will be just as alright on Smash Bros 4. First Staten, now Marty? Things are getting sketchy.

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          • [quote]Here's my take on this unfolding fiasco Bungie finds themselves in: The rank-and-file might know, and certainly care, more than Deej is letting on concerning Marty's release. However, orders from on-high are to keep this quiet, on pain of termination. I don't think any board of directors goes on their forums to get the reactions of the fans and act accordingly. I personally don't trust people with that much power in any given situation, and this is exactly why. So how do we convince the executives to make this right at least by us and tell us a fuller, truer story? We put our money where our mouth is, and boycott Destiny in every form until they deign to share the truth with the true highest power in the economy: the customers. Refuse to play the beta. This will pain everyone involved, players and programmers. But we're already in pain, and if you play the beta, you are accepting the idea that executives can treat us this way and get away with it; that we're nothing but loyal dogs who instantly come running when called and given a treat. We're not their bitches. So prove it. If you're like me and have yet to preorder, don't. If you really want to hurt them, cancel your existing preorder. Again, we're not their dogs. The ultimate power rests in the customers holding the company responsible. Don't play anything out of the Bungie store. No t-shirts, no hoodies, no other merchandise or swag. Refuse, until Bungie levels with us like they ought to have from the beginning. "But Otter, if this takes off and the boycott takes a wide effect, won't that hurt people who weren't involved in this? That isn't right either." You're absolutely right. Here's the problem: after decades of priding themselves as being an unconventional, casual company, Bungie's board of directors has revealed they are no different than any corporate board you might despise. And they speak only one language: money. If they want to risk their company and the innocent employees on covering up the truth, that is on them, not us. And realistically, Bungie employees will get picked up elsewhere or form another start-up, because they are the best of the best in the industry. We shouldn't have to accept this from the legendary company that brought us some of the best games in the decade, and brought us together as a community we named ourselves in their honor. And if you want to honor Marty O'Donnell, who had a direct hand in creating "the Bungie experience" we all know and love, then join me in making a stand for the truth. Boycott. For Marty.[/quote]You have fun with that, ill be over here.... playing the beta

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