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originally posted in: MARTY2014 - Vote to Save Marty!
4/16/2014 10:54:25 AM
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Everybody on here is absolutely overreacting to this. 1. You do not have the right to know why he was fired. None whatsoever. Get over that. 2. He was fired for a reason. He tweeted "without cause" because there was no cause [i]given[/i] to him, not because they fired him without any reason that wouldn't make any sense. 3. The soundtrack, in all likelihood, is 100% done. This will not affect Destiny. 4. Calling for Bungie's Board of Directors' respective heads over the matter is entirely idiotic. You have no idea why he was fired and it may very well have been a perfectly legitimate reason. Stop being a sycophant and just wait to see if they release a statement. Even if they don't, again, it's none of your business why he was fired. None.
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  • Well 'we' don't have a right to know, but Marty does. To fire a 20 year veteran and not give him an explanation seems strange.

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  • You're right. It [i]is[/i] strange. Meaning there must be a reason for it. A reason that "we" don't need to know.

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  • Edited by XxhagakurexX: 4/16/2014 11:04:09 PM
    Redacted.

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  • Shill.

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  • [b]No one[/b] is overreacting to this. They all have the right to freak out. The news was HUGE and sudden. Yes, we don't have the right to know why he was fired. That doesn't mean we don't want an explanation, from Marty or otherwise. And that doesn't mean Bungie doesn't owe us one. "Without cause." This is the part that urks me. Why would they fire him, after 20 years, and NOT give him a reason? This is why we are demanding answers. The soundtrack may very well be done, yes, but, if it isn't, it will CERTAINLY affect Destiny. Even if it IS 100% done, it will certainly affect the franchise, as Destiny's sequels won't have the Marty touch. Hell, all you need do is play Halo 4's campaign to notice it doesn't have the "Halo-feel" to it, due to Marty's absence. (inb4 Gojira/Chronarch "there is no such thing as a halo-feel") It is NOT idiotic, it's perfectly natural. If it was a legitimate reason, why would they not tell us? Your post was simply written to start arguments.

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  • Ur Overreacting.

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  • I'm actually not. I'm writing from the common person's perspective. I couldn't care less about Destiny and Halo. I know I'm buying the Soundtrack now, that's all.

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  • [quote] I'm writing from the common person's perspective. [/quote] Sounds like overreacting

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  • -blam!- off, random.

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  • Great for u

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  • Relax man, some of us are just trying to cope with the news, some are doing it better than others. You have to admit the statement released by Bungie is pretty succinct, pretty sure there will be more to come. But the news was so sudden, it's normal to want to point fingers at someone and we all react differently. I guess Bungie is not a big happy family, and in the end it may be that it's always all about the money. I'm a dreamer, and I hope that's not what this is. As far as Destiny's soundtrack, we should not speculate either. It may or may not be 100% finished, and Bungie may or may not use all or parts of Marty's work. Who knows... still dam sad.

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  • Edited by Taencred: 4/16/2014 11:13:07 AM
    Exactly our point. Marty has stuck with the company for a gazillion years. Been the musical pillar that all the games have been supported by throughout their years together. And now he's being fired without knowing the reason(he doesn't deserve to at least know the reason, no matter what's going on, after all that time?). I'm not overreacting. I'm just not gonna stand for this bullshit from a company I trust.

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  • Just because he wasn't given one doesn't mean he can't imply for himself what the reason might've been.

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  • I'm perfectly aware of that, but the point here is that even though Bungie IS a company, they've always tried to make everyone feel like this community is a family. And Marty has been a huge part of that. We've all grown to love him over the years. And if the point of Bungie is to make us feel like a family rather than fans of a "business" thing, than they should explain in more detail why someone from our family no longer is welcome, especially when that family member himself is expressing discontent. For me I could go to any game company and treat it like whatever, but the reason I've been sticking around with Bungie for so long and supported them whole-heartedly is because I felt like this company was more about the community than the business.

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  • [quote] they've always tried to make everyone feel like this community is a family. And Marty has been a huge part of that. We've all grown to love him over the years.[/quote] Which lends even more credence to the idea that there was a legitimate reason behind his being fired.

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  • I'm not saying there isn't. I'm saying they owe it to us to tell us, especially when he expresses discontent.

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  • They don't owe anything to us. What happened was between them and the sense of entitlement to the point that people think they deserve to be notified of the reason an employee of a company they own no stock in was fired is absurd, IMO.

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  • That's once again, exactly my point. Here everyone is like family. But if they're just gonna treat it like business and ignore us when something this big happens, then they're nothing different from any other company out there, and in my opinion, no longer what Bungie is all about. In my opinion, they owe it to us, even if they technically don't. I'm not talking about logic here, there is no logic to love. I'm talking about the attachment we all have to this family and how they should be treating it differently from other companies.

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  • They're not ignoring you. You have no right to know, family or not. Business or otherwise. Saying that they're "ignoring you" or treating it more like a "business" than a "family" is just being an entitled whiner, to be honest. They don't owe you anything; it's none of your business. Even people within families have their own private matters with one another; nobody is an open book and nobody is entitled to any bit of information about this situation. They're just not.

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  • Pointless argument from now on. I've said everything that I wanted to say, you don't agree, you also seem to have a whole 'nother perspective on family than I do. So we'll have to agree to disagree. Also I'm not whining. Every person in the world has terms as for why he/she supports/loves someone. These are my terms, if anything you're just judging and whining about my life decisions.

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