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3/1/2014 4:42:53 AM
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Tangentially related, I've often wondered how transforming into a different body would affect the mind in any way (aside from any possible distraught that transforming into a different body would bring).
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  • I was trying to probe that matter a little bit as well. I centered the question around a non-biological surrogate, but it's also interesting to ask, "What about another human, or another living organism?" I think it would definitely still change your state of mind. Whether it does so to the extent of making you a different person is interesting to think about.

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  • Edited by Lord Keksworth: 3/1/2014 4:54:48 AM
    Well, I saw Van Helsing a few years back, and there's this part where a guy turns into a werewolf and goes crazy. I started wondering: how would this affect his mind in the slightest? I mean, sure, he's a big animal thing, but why does he lose his mind in the process? It doesn't make any logical sense to me.

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  • I think about this quite a bit. b As a thought experiment, I imagine what it would be like to be an ant. If my mind was somehow intact in this body and still had the same reactions and reflexes, I imagine i would initially be panicked that I could no longer breathe. The very notion of not having lungs is so alien to me I can barely comprehend it. I would in theory still have my neurons plenty oxygenated via cellular diffusion, but the notion of not controlling that aspect of my experience is very strange. Plus, would i be able to decode all the complex visual data that comes from compound eyes? Would I be able to process my world not primarily through visual cues, but through my sense of smell? How do I intrinsically know how to move all 6 of my legs, and my jaws, and my antenna? Obviously I don't have any answers to these questions, but I still enjoy thinking about it. They make me realize that I am the exact product of my own body/mind, I don't have to think about how i move my arms, I just do, and how complex that very system really is. On topic; this aspect of transhumanism has been explored at depth, but I don't think any conclusions have been made. Its the philosophical zombie scenario, would a construct, with a brain that is exactly the same as a humans, but lacking definitive "consciousness" would we even be able to tell them apart? It gets at how we define ourselves, what we define as consciousness, and then what really makes us human. I personally am on the materialists side on this one. A philosophical zombie would be just as conscious as any other human being, because there is nothing beyond that physical set of rules that makes a human being. I think Azimov thought about that a lot too. I think he also sided with the materialists, and came to the conclusion that its an uninteresting question in the end. That something can operate on so complex a system, be it organic or digital, is the interesting thing there.

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