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4/4/2013 3:20:58 AM
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I doubt that they're going to include the abillity to go prone. It looks like Destiny, like Halo, will have Shields, which means longer kill times, which means an emphasis on mobillity rather than moving cautiously and making your profile as small as possible.
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Well that's inherit with Halo and it's PVP rules and regulations dealing with shields and the all mighty kill time. But out in a PVE firefight the size of Skyrim with new enemy classes that might for all we know be carrying weapons that can simulate a Scorpion round, and you have limited ammo then stealth and getting under the Ais detection line of sight would be advantageous to players in general no mater the size or class. It would make many in the military FPS's feel at home and comfortable to have in something as daunting as a massive science fiction/fantasy universe with so many concepts being thrown at them. Halo players will be right at home coming to the edge of a ridge line, but a BF3 player will want to drop to the edge of the ridge even if he or she has shielding. I think it should be an option for players so they can retain a sense of familiarity while addressing the unfamiliar themes Bungie is providing.
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Edited by Ghost 0f Dawn2: 4/5/2013 12:40:33 AMI know of plenty of Battlefield players who are just fine without prone. It's the childish CoD population that enjoys having their games full of game breaking mechanics, [i]prone[/i] included. I haven't seen a single Bungie game with prone, so it's highly doubtful. So the people who like to rub the floor with their face, can accept it, or find another game, that simple. ------- EDIT: Or just let themselves die all the time - so they can lay down.
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Edited by DEZARATH: 4/5/2013 12:48:04 AMYes, but in contex Destiny has been sold as a massive world experience where players are on the same team engaging hostile aliens. They have noted a competitive game play the player will have to opt into. But the rest of us are going to be engaged in firefights and exploring these environments solo or with clans and friend lists. You're going to be on your own at times with maybe limited ammo and powerful foes entrenched in bases or fortresses or even over wide open spaces. I'd rather the Prone ability than not.
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Edited by Ghost 0f Dawn2: 4/5/2013 12:56:04 AMexactly, you'd rather have a game-breaker to help you get through something that would be a team effort/challenge. Also, to add prone to a game is significantly changing every aspect of the game, and while you continue calling it a "choice" to use it, it's not. I don't know of any massive games with prone - WoW, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Borderlands, Far Cry... Come to think of it, the only games I can think of with prone are CoD and Battlefield; Medal of Honor doesn't even have it does it? I rarely touch that game. oh well, prone isn't this type of games salsa.
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Edited by externalmemory: 4/4/2013 7:41:35 PMThere's geometry where not being prone doesn't afford that option. So while I don't disagree that it could fit in Destiny I don't think it's a "style option" as much as a situational advantage that players can choose to take or forfeit. Especially if there's any kind of scaling character accuracy / targeting / reticule system dependent on whether you're moving / stationary / stationary and prone. i.e. if my shot is going to have the smallest spread while prone or highest magnetism (this is a console shooter remember), then if my Hunter is sniping and not yet detected or under fire I am [i]damn[/i] well going prone.
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Edited by externalmemory: 4/4/2013 7:43:45 PMSure, going supine is better in terms of mobility, but shields wouldn't do much good for your average life / kill time at 90 mph.
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Alas, the macabre world where I can watch in slow-motion a man's life be snuffed out over and over again. There's something morally rehensible in that.
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[i]Reprehensible.[/i] Since you don't have the power to censor this, deserving or not, I assume this is a condemnation of reposting this gif. As I'm going out of my way to harass Novar's family with the footage and I'm simply making a joke, your disgust is as much a matter of taste as my fascination with people's need to put themselves in life-threatening situations for sport. Especially when the FIL found the accident to be due to rider error. That being said, footage of what happened helped to make designs for the Whistler sliding course safer in the event of rider error, because slamming into an unprotected pole at 90 mph knowing full well the risks if you can't control your sled still hurts. If you want to morally crusade, post on someone reposting images of Mexican drug cartels torturing hostages or other videos designed as terrorism, with the intent to disseminate such to the public. I've no patience for slacktivism. Go put that moral indignation to good use, will you? The world is a mean and uncaring place and needs your help to set it right.
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Edited by Makeshyft: 4/4/2013 11:36:41 PMThank you, reprehensible. I didn't catch that. Actually, it wasn't directed at you at all. I was merely objectively musing at my own apathy and lack of emotional response to a situation that should be by definition tragic. [quote]Especially when the FIL found the accident to be due to rider error. That being said, footage of what happened helped to make designs for the Whistler sliding course safer in the event of rider error, because slamming into an unprotected pole at 90 mph knowing full well the risks if you can't control your sled still hurts. If you want to morally crusade, post on someone reposting images of Mexican drug cartels torturing hostages or other videos designed as terrorism, with the intent to disseminate such to the public. I've no patience for slacktivism. Go put that moral indignation to good use, will you? The world is a mean and uncaring place and needs your help to set it right.[/quote] I sense resentment. Be rest assured I'm not crusading. :) And don't bite someone's head off without getting all the facts. Assuming makes an ass out of both you and me.
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My mistake and apologies, I see now you're clearly not an ass.
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Thank you. Your humility does you credit. In truth, I understand your position. Moral crusaders are rather obnoxious no? I too grit my teeth and attempt to swallow my more belligerent comments. The High-and-Mighty tend to get on my nerves.
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Agreed; the ones online and in media, at least, as do those pursuing shock and bad taste purely for its own transgressive value. I feel as though they're two sides of the same coin, I don't want to come off as the latter, either. Though I do feel people with strong convictions are admirable and not the ones you'll generally find taking up pet causes to rid the world of injustice culture online or in media. That's a kind of act, a way of acting good by proxy and order of simulacra, because one is too much of a coward or slacker to put oneself at risk or in harms way to actually make a difference IRL. Same goes, on the flipside, with your internet tough guys and hardasses. It is obnoxious.
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Edited by Makeshyft: 4/5/2013 12:29:07 AMVery. And in truth, we're all guilty of that in some regard. The anonymity offered by the internet tends to encourage impulsive, impassioned answers that often serve only to embarass ourselves. It's difficult to embrace and practice the fine art of [i]selective self-stfu[/i]. It's a transgression I often commit.
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What the hell does that even mean? How is this relevant?
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Edited by externalmemory: 4/4/2013 7:00:18 PMwhoosh!
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Soooo..... if we're luging we should go prone instead of supine? Is that what you're getting at? What am I missing here?
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Edited by externalmemory: 4/4/2013 7:24:53 PMLet me explain... No, there is too much. Let me sum up. It's working on the absurd claim that simply because you disagree with thing x you must be advocating its literal opposite. Everything else sort of follows that. I didn't expect everyone to get it or appreciate it, hence not posting it as a reply to the OP.
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Edited by cB557: 4/4/2013 7:27:29 PMAhhhhh, ok. Now it's funny. I thought it was a legitimate suggestion. Der:P (Acheivement get! New emoticon!)
