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2/20/2013 1:25:59 AM
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Religion is following the correct path, it is slowly dying off to logic and reasoning.
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  • Edited by Corvus Prudens: 2/20/2013 1:42:22 AM
    Religion was spawned by logic and reasoning. Also, evolutionism requires a similar leap of faith to some religions.

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  • Please continue, I can't wait for my ears to rejoice in hearing this layman's strawman.

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  • Edited by Corvus Prudens: 2/20/2013 2:34:44 AM
    Continue? Okay. Ask yourself this: how did the universe begin? Was it the big bang, was it some other phenomenon? Well, regardless of what exactly, how did it begin. What caused the big bang? Why did some particle of energy spontaneously expand into a vast expanse? If you have an answer for that, then pray tell me what caused this secondary event? You see, what is left is a logical conundrum with seemingly no final solution. An object cannot create itself, because it did not exist before itself. There are many other things to cover.

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  • I honestly don't even know how to respond to your idiocy. How does the theory of how the Universe began relate to evolution? Hell, they're in entirely different fields of study, they have correlation at all other than the big bang came before and "gave" evolution the tools necessary to take place. Even if you can somehow disprove the big bang, it doesn't disprove evolution. I will further the question, you do know that the divine creator of yours must be, at a minimum, as complex as the most complex thing in our reality. So, the question falls back to , where did this creator come from? You can't fall back to "He is infinite and you can't understand him", that's illogical.

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  • I'm not saying the big bang is fact, or that it is false. I am saying that whatever event caused the creation of the universe had a beginning, according to our understanding, and thus is a logical conundrum. For most people, the theory of evolution excludes a god and thus requires some creation event without one. In other words, if you believe in a god-excluding evolution, you have to believe in an illogical universe creation. As for the existence of a god itself, one can at least believe that it had no beginning and therefore seem more logical than a self-launced event--possibly. But understanding something like that, for us, is like trying to comprehend a shark's Ampullae of Lorenzini; it is not possible. However, it still may possibly exist. Do not say this is unconnected; it is only an example of a thing we cannot comprehend which still exists. The existence of a thing without a beginning is of course incomprehensible, but only because we had a beginning and thus have no understanding. And by the way, beginning your post with an insult neither makes your point nor increases your apparent intelligence.

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