actually i saw the new screenie of the chief in the forest... those marines look pretty shnazzy, i wouldn't mind playing as them at all. i really don't care about the whole "they're weaker,shorter, and don't have shields" crap. its just a look. But that whole Elite thing will keep me from playing many online co-op games... i think they should AT LEAST add one more human to the bunch. To even things out, two humans, two elites. if any of you have read the novels, then surely you know of the spartan III's, they are cheaper than the spartan II's, but they lack shields, but their SPI armor (or E.V.A......) can make them invisible. I think that having two stealth peoples (SPI spartan and one of the elites i cant decide witch one..) and two regular guys the chief and witch ever other elite.