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10/29/2004 2:36:35 AM
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Forerunner and a Prophet
[b][color=red]Warning: This thread contains Prophecy and possibly spoilers (I haven't played the game). If you are prone to flaming, you have been warned![/b][/color]
Welcome to my mother of all thread (thus far). For those of you who are familiar with my previous posts on the topic, this is new stuff. I have handpicked several passages from The Word. They're quite frightening at how they are [i]appearently[/i] coincidental... Or I'm just crazy (I like both answers). [i]If anyone would like a list of the passage titles, simply PM me for them and I'll be more than happy to send 'em your way.[/i]
([i]If you are [b]not[/b] a skeptic of my findings, skip this paragraph[/i])
I understand that some (if not, most or all of you) do not believe as I believe. But for all of you skeptics out there, please try to answer these questions:
[color=yellow]Where else do you hear about the Flood wiping out entire populations? Where else do you hear about the Prophets of the Covenant? Where else do you hear about the Reclaimer bringing salvation to mankind?[/color]
With that said, [b][i]let the intrigue begin![/b][/i] (any thoughts I add will be [i]italicised[/i])
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ice weasel with your name i thought you were a dumb asss but now i know diferant. you and me think the same way. Damn i love this crap.
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Nice....thanks!
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IceWeasel: Very nice find, the comparisons are too close to ignore. I'm not a religious person myself, but I now see how much similarity there is between the bible and Halo. Good job, you seem to have put a lot of work into this. Champlain: I like the new you a lot more, I'm glad you decided to change up your bungie.net persona a little bit...
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good theory, but do u think that bungie is that deep into religion?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IceWeasel [b]UPDATE:[/b] In the first 8 or 9 pages of [u]The Fall of Reach[/u], Nylund is describing the destruction of Jericho 7 by the hand of The Covenant. I'm not sure which part of the name [i]Jericho 7[/i] is more important. Either the number or the place name. In the book of Joshua (6:1-27), the Israelites [i](also called the people of the holy covenant in the book of Daniel)[/i] marched around the city of Jericho for seven days. And on the seventh day the Israelites blew their trumpets and the entire city collapsed, leaving only a small handfull of survivors. [i][u]The Fall of Reach[/u], page 8[/i] [quote]Their lateral lines brightened with plasma-then discharged and rained [color=red]fire[/color] on Jericho VII... ...Where there had once been a paradise, only hell remained.[/quote] [i]Joshua 6[/i] [quote] On the [b]seventh[/b] day the Israelites got up and marched around the city as they had done before. But this time they went around the city [b]seven[/b] times... ...When the people heard the sound of the horns, they shouted as loud as they could. Suddenly, the walls of Jericho collapsed, and the Israelites charged straight into the city from every side and captured it. They completely destroyed everything in it- men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys - everything... ...Then the Israelites [b][color=red]burned[/color][/b] the city [i](Jericho)[/i] and everything in it. Only the things made from bronze, silver, gold or iron were kept for the LORD's house.[/quote][/quote] I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but I think that Jericho was rebuilt 6 times before the Isrealites got to it. So the Jericho they destroyed was Jericho 7.
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dude learn to spell before you -blam!- at people
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Are you saying that bungie is following the bible?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] slipknotm7 Yes, but what do the monks have 2 do with any thing [/quote] I think it's quite easy to point out that monks are devout people. The most common are Catholic and Buddhist monks. The superficial connection here with monks singing through-out the entire game was pointed out as a small side note so that those who have ears can hear.
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Yes, but what do the monks have 2 do with any thing, o ya EXCELLENT THEORY. Really, superb, i dont think i would ever thought of that.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Meteorain27 Very nice, Ice. For doubters, think of this. WHY IS THE FREAKIN GAME CALLED HALO (think on Angel's head) IF IT DOESN'T HAVE SYMBOLISM. [/quote] Indeed. Everyone try to think back to the very first moment of playing halo... peeling back the wrapping on the case. sliding the fresh, unscratched disc into the black console. Bungie screen catches you off gaurd as the use metaphoricle bacteria populating the earth and then- [i]there[/i]... -right there- you hear monks singing.
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Very nice, Ice. For doubters, think of this. WHY IS THE FREAKIN GAME CALLED HALO (think on Angel's head) IF IT DOESN'T HAVE SYMBOLISM.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SPARTAN luverr [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IceWeasel [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SPARTAN luverr OR maybe he can see into the future and the halo universe is our own in a couple of years, and im the young MC i like that theory the best.[/quote] [i]couple[/i] of years? try a few hundred... ;)[/quote] ahhh thats where your wrong, theres this super genius(who is actualy a covie outkast prophet in disguise, who wants to help the humans before they get cushed by the covies) gives the humans loads of tchnological advances really fast(they are actually very simple) and the humans just send out loads of people colinizing other worlds and we use drugd to help us reproduce and mature faster to increase numbers. prophets work in very mysterious ways[/quote] care to explain why the Halo universe takes place in in the 2550's?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IceWeasel [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SPARTAN luverr OR maybe he can see into the future and the halo universe is our own in a couple of years, and im the young MC i like that theory the best.[/quote] [i]couple[/i] of years? try a few hundred... ;)[/quote] ahhh thats where your wrong, theres this super genius(who is actualy a covie outkast prophet in disguise, who wants to help the humans before they get cushed by the covies) gives the humans loads of tchnological advances really fast(they are actually very simple) and the humans just send out loads of people colinizing other worlds and we use drugd to help us reproduce and mature faster to increase numbers. prophets work in very mysterious ways
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SPARTAN luverr OR maybe he can see into the future and the halo universe is our own in a couple of years, and im the young MC i like that theory the best.[/quote] [i]couple[/i] of years? try a few hundred... ;)
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i know, i like chaplain lol. his ideas are prob my fave. cooool Eric trautman maybe he's religious in some way and knows the bible well, OR maybe he can see into the future and the halo universe is our own in a couple of years, and im the young MC i like that theory the best. [Edited on 10/30/2004 11:04:24 AM]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SPARTAN luverr im an athesist(doesnt have anything to do with it) i like the idea though. who came up with the halo universe? i think everyone should flame chaplain cos its frikkin hilairious for some reason. man i heard chaplains head is huge, i mean like really huge, like a -blam!- watermelon!! joke[/quote] Hey, lay off of chaplain. Eric Trautman wrote the halo bible which describes every event and charecter in the halo universe.
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im an athesist(doesnt have anything to do with it) i like the idea though. who came up with the halo universe? i think everyone should flame chaplain cos its frikkin hilairious for some reason. man i heard chaplains head is huge, i mean like really huge, like a -blam!- watermelon!! joke
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Could you post the exact passages these excerpts come from IceWeasel?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WhitestarAnubis IceWeasel, You went and convinved me to pull out my bible and search through it a bit, mainly to find that reference I told you about. However, did find these versus just shy of those mentioned for Master Chief bringing the fight to the Covenant. [quote]One of them asked the man dressed in linen, who was now standing above the river, "How long will it be until these shocking events happen?" The man dressed in linens, who was standing above the river, raised both hands toward heaven and took this solemn oath by the one who lives forever: "It will go on for a time, times, and half a time. When the shattering of the holy people has finally come to an end, all these things will have happened."[/quote] Even though I am not the type of person to try and draw of complete parallel between the Bible and Halo, this line does have a scary connection to the rumors of a Civil War amongst the races of the Covenant, mainly "the shattering of the holy people". Perhaps we will find out that the Prophet's quote in the trailers of "There are those who said this day would never come. What have they to say now?" is not talking about the assault on Earth, but a Civil War in the Covenant that will last for 3 and a half years?[/quote] Ahh... the book of Ezekiel. It's a fun one. The statement itself [i]is[/i] talking about the assault on Earth, but when he says [i]"There are those who said this day would never come. What have they to say now?"[/i], the word "those" (believe) is refering to some of the covenant who stray from the words of the prophet [i]before[/i] the assault on Earth (obviously, they wouldn't say it during the assault). And obviously, for the sake of heresy and treason, such doubters would surely die as soon as the prophet gives the orders. So the civil war may be going on for some time now, but it is difficult to say when it started. Heck, it could have been going on since the beginning of the conglomorate. I wouldn't even say it is a war, even if several thousand (million?) covenant forces stray. The Covenant forces must be immensly huge (thus all are expendable), because if you read the last chapters of first strike, any ship that even [i]hesitated[/i] at giving access codes to come near High Charity, they would be obliterated. So, less like a war, more like a hundred mutinies silently taken care of.
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IceWeasel, You went and convinved me to pull out my bible and search through it a bit, mainly to find that reference I told you about. However, did find these versus just shy of those mentioned for Master Chief bringing the fight to the Covenant. [quote]One of them asked the man dressed in linen, who was now standing above the river, "How long will it be until these shocking events happen?" The man dressed in linens, who was standing above the river, raised both hands toward heaven and took this solemn oath by the one who lives forever: "It will go on for a time, times, and half a time. When the shattering of the holy people has finally come to an end, all these things will have happened."[/quote] Even though I am not the type of person to try and draw of complete parallel between the Bible and Halo, this line does have a scary connection to the rumors of a Civil War amongst the races of the Covenant, mainly "the shattering of the holy people". Perhaps we will find out that the Prophet's quote in the trailers of "There are those who said this day would never come. What have they to say now?" is not talking about the assault on Earth, but a Civil War in the Covenant that will last for 3 and a half years?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WhitestarAnubis [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IceWeasel [color=red][b]MASTER CHIEF BRINGING THE FIGHT TO THE COVENANT[/color][/b] [quote]Before him great armies will be swept away, including a [b][color=purple]covenant prince[/color][/b]. ...On the way he will return home he will set himself against the people of the [b][color=purple]holy covenant[/color][/b], doing much damage before continueing his journey. For warshps from the western coastline (kittim) will scare him off, and he will withdraw and return home. But he will vent his anger against the people of the [b][color=purple]holy covenant[/color][/b], and reward those who forsake the [b][color=purple]covenant[/color][/b]. His army will take over the [color=purple][b]Temple fortress[/color][/b], polluting the [b][color=purple]sanctuary[/color][/b], putting a stop to the daily sacrifices, and setting up the sacreligious object that causes desecration.[/quote] [/quote] Good afternoon, IceWeasel. At least, it's afternoon where I am, not sure what it is out your way. Just got a question about this one. Would you mind telling me where you got that quote? Because I really cannot shake the feeling that those versus are not about The Savior, but rather are about The Beast. Thanks for your time. WhitestarAnubis[/quote] Actually, you're close. It's talking about an evil king from the north which pretty much gives meret to the idea that the humans are on the wrong side. any way, it's from the book of Daniel:11:22,28b,30,31 All verses are from the New Living Translation.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Chaplain Interesting, you would be understanding if I asked where these things are said... wouldn't you? If they are in a magazine Article (Doubtful) book, or fan Fiction, please tell us. :)[/quote] i think Their from Revilation(in the Christian Bible)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] IceWeasel [color=red][b]MASTER CHIEF BRINGING THE FIGHT TO THE COVENANT[/color][/b] [quote]Before him great armies will be swept away, including a [b][color=purple]covenant prince[/color][/b]. ...On the way he will return home he will set himself against the people of the [b][color=purple]holy covenant[/color][/b], doing much damage before continueing his journey. For warshps from the western coastline (kittim) will scare him off, and he will withdraw and return home. But he will vent his anger against the people of the [b][color=purple]holy covenant[/color][/b], and reward those who forsake the [b][color=purple]covenant[/color][/b]. His army will take over the [color=purple][b]Temple fortress[/color][/b], polluting the [b][color=purple]sanctuary[/color][/b], putting a stop to the daily sacrifices, and setting up the sacreligious object that causes desecration.[/quote] [/quote] Good afternoon, IceWeasel. At least, it's afternoon where I am, not sure what it is out your way. Just got a question about this one. Would you mind telling me where you got that quote? Because I really cannot shake the feeling that those versus are not about The Savior, but rather are about The Beast. Thanks for your time. WhitestarAnubis
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Very nice thread
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yeah me too its really cool i like it actually
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wow, awesome job coming up with all that stuff. sounds much to coincidental to not at least be partly the truth. i enjoyed reading it too
