[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Predator5791 So why on earth would a second budget be installed? Forgers are already limited to what they can create. On top of having a second budget, you inform us that if we try and make a canvas, we will end up hurting ourselves in the long run. Being forced to move the original objects out of the way in order to forge is an extreme inconvenience.[/quote] They didn't install a second budget, it is an object limit that has always been there, nothing new. My theory on the canvas glitch is that the objects on the map don't count towards the OLN at all, and therefore are in ADDITION to the normal limit. If you would delete them, than that addition would be gone, since making a new one would lower the OLN.