Thanks Much for clearing that up. Great job, kelloggz. MUCH better then the Pirate one

Everyone is giving me way too much credit, i mean i know i have a kick-a$$ name but I can't draw worth anything. The emblems everyone thinks I designed were actually by kelloggz. She did an excellent job and I originally had commented on her drawings. Somewhere along the lines it became mixed up that my copy of her text was my own, thus making it look like i posted it. So everyone give her props on her designs.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SEspider DREdreB31, Beautiful designs. The first looks too much like that of a current emblem. And I think the last's Splash is cool but may be too detailed for a Small emblem. John Anderson, Very cool concepts. Really like how you compined the Spider with that of a Scorpion. Shows some thought went into it. The Brute Skull could use more work and less detail. But it would be pretty cool to have.[/quote] Oh, heh, those aren't mine. Combat made those. When I said the whole "I'm too lazy" thing, I was just mocking him. Though I still think his designs are the shizznit.

DREdreB31, Beautiful designs. The first looks too much like that of a current emblem. And I think the last's Splash is cool but may be too detailed for a Small emblem. John Anderson, Very cool concepts. Really like how you compined the Spider with that of a Scorpion. Shows some thought went into it. The Brute Skull could use more work and less detail. But it would be pretty cool to have.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xupaosso [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SEspider I'm very sorry, Noah, but as a Hard working artist, I feel cheated, I can't just sit by on this. To Bungie, Here's PROOF that he cheated. I used the image frrom the news article of Noah's design, Blew it up, and overlayed the Ninja over it. And this is the result. [url]http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/750/proofofcheatingno2.jpg[/url] Now I KNOW that Bungie re-drew it for the game. And it's possible that they reused the Ninja themselves. But Noah himself (page one of this thread) says himself that it's an exact match. And once again, please notice the use of Weapons in the design, and the fact that we already have a pirate emblem.. Case Closed...I hope.[/quote] If you were any kind of real "Hard working artist" you, and the rest of the flamers in this thread, would understand that there is huge value in continuity and uniformity. I am a "hard working artist" - I get paid very well to be such - and the majority of my time is spent on tweaking small ideas that have been in place for a long time. I can't tell you how many times I've "copied" a previous idea or concept to save time, money, and sanity without sacrificing the quality of the work. Props out to Noah - way to go, man.[/quote] Sorry for the late reply. Been having computer problems. Now to the responce: First off, I'm a free lance artist that can RARELY get work in my area. There's just not much demand for artst in my city. Because of that, I've had to find clients in other cities and that cost me money and time. And because of that, I don't get paid "very well" as you may or may not. And because money is scarece and rare, I do my best to satisfy my clients. Even if they know absolutly NOTHING about art, dedsign, and/or layouts. I also know when to work hard on something and when NOT to work hard on it. For example, if a client continues to change their mind/design idea ever day or so, then I'm not going to work hard on the project only to have it completely overhauled the next day. Siturations like that require shortcuts and such. So I have no problem with short cuts when they are NEEDED to make the job easier. In the case of the Pirate Emblem, it was NOT needed. It's a good design, I admited that a number of times. I even gave Noah Congratulations for the win. I'm Glad he won, but I'm not at all glad with HOW he won. Pratically no effort was put into the design, nor is it really original in any way. The head is a purfect cut/paste from the Ninja emblem, The Swords are taken from the Spartan Emblem with a minor modifications in apperance, and in no way is the look of the Pirate's look new. Not to mention the fact that we were NOT allowed to use weapons in our deesigns. And the Swords are JUST THAT!! Even if the swords were replaced, with a hat, it'll still be in violation of the Rules because of the lake of originality and stealing the Ninja's look. Members like myself and jaymz9mm for example clearly followed the rules to the "T" and made FULLY ORIGINAL designs. Not all of the designs are original concepts however. I used a freaking Spider for crying out loud. lol. But the STYLE of it is original as it's layout. I created over a dozen emblem designs that had nothing to do with spiders. I did not submit the spider simply because it resembled my GamerTag. I submited it because it allowed creativity within the interface of the Halo3 Emblem section. As I've stated a number of times, I "WORKED" with the emblem. Did tests and found it to work really well in creating unigue emblems to suit most if not all players. I originally had the legs of the spider closer and thicker, but that just didn't work well in creating unigue emblems. But thining them out, rearranging them some really opened up the possibilites. Though some of my other designs did just that, NONE did it so effectivly as the Spider. But no matter which design I submitted or anyone else, it had to follow the rules and allow creativity with within the interface. And though it looks somewhat cool, Noah's Pirate Emblem Just Does NOT do any of that. I've playeed with Noah's deesign and nothing seemed to work with it. Unlike the ninja, the Pirate has a transparent face. And unless all you absolutly WANT to see the Pirate, it's useless. If you look around the Halo community and the online gamers, you'll see that almost all players have found ways to create Unigue designs that set them apart. Some have become so popular that they are now copied by other gamers. The Afro-Skull comes to mind. [quote]By jaymz9mm Entries must be original work You may not use any existing corporation’s logos, trademarks or other identifiable images Your entry must be original, must not have been previously published ... and must have been created and owned exclusively by you Entries may not contain: firearms/weapons; any content that contains trademarks, logos; copyrighted materials owned by others (including ... other works of art or images published on or in websites, television, movies or other media) Granted that it's all up to Bungie in the end, but it's just kind of a slap in the face to everyone that did painstakingly read and abide by all the regulations just to see the selected art violates half of them. Rules are rules, why have them if they didn't matter? It was kind of ridiculous that we weren't allowed to submit an icon with weapons for a game that embodies war, I chose to respect that rather than risk disqualification. There will always be sore losers in every contest, but I think a lot less people would have been upset if the winning entry wasn't in blatant violation of the rules.[/quote] Agreed. It's a HUGE Slap in the face. The ONLY reason I see that Noah won (with respect to Noah) is because of the whole POTC movie thing and the Bungie's Pimps At Sea thing. Clearly someone at Bungie is a huge Pirates fan, and got bias when choosing a winner. Why else would they choose such an obviace design that breaks ALL of the rules?!?! By the way, I'm NOT a sore loser. I would care a LOT less if this contest was for a Blinx: The Time Sweeper game. But it's not. It's for Halo. A video game that's popular all around the world and have become a phanominon. With your art in the game, it's basically a gaint Billboard that travels all around the world and into the homes of hundreads of thousands of gamers. We all know that Bungie/Microsoft will include Credits in both the game and manurals with the Artist's name. And having your name along side that of Bungie, Microsoft, and Halo, is a HUGE opprotunity to get clients all around this Blue Globe of ours. No, I'm not a sore loser, I'm a struggling artist that sees opprotunities. Opprotunities that were snatched away by a cheater. And as we all know from Halo2, Cheaters RUIN EVERYTHING!!

[url=http://youfail.org/]This is what I think of the new pirate emblem[/url]

I liked my entries: [url=http://revelation-six.deviantart.com/gallery/scraps/]Link[/url]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A random loser [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Spartan 117 x A pirate? Seriously? Out of all of the designs that were sorted through, this was the best? Wow, Im sure alot of people that ACTUALLY did good, as pretty ticked off. Im sure there could have been a really awesome emblem, but instead, we get a pirate. The most idiotic and unoriginal concept ever. And I also agree, the emlem looks really close to the Raiders.[/quote]HEATHEN!!!! HOW DARE YOU!!! i love the new emblem! As a Pastafarian (look it up on Wikipedia), i believe in a Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) who created the universe. PIRATES where the origonal Pastafarians. In fact, Pirates where devine beings who gave candy to children. Unfortunately declining the numbers of pirates have lead to world wide disasters such as Global Warming, because FSM is angry with us. Maybe now if more people use this pirate emblem, the Earth will cool down and humanity will be saved. USE THIS EMBLEM! THE FATE OF THE WORLD IS DEPENDING ON IT!![/quote] HA HA HA HA HA LOL! ROFL anyway love the symbol probabley gonna be on a profile of mine oh sry bout double post

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what is with all the pirate stuff any way? [Edited on 06.11.2007 9:48 AM PDT]

this is bull -blam!- y are all u guys raving on about how good that emblem was im sure almost all of yours were better cause in halo 2 theres an emblem just like that one only its a sparten nice job bungie make another dumbass move

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Groove Regulator [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] combat monkey I don't know which one they liked... so I'm showing them all. I personally like the tribal looking one but i did this all on a whim. Hope you guys like. Also the pirate is cool, Congrats. I'm just glad I was on the list. Everyone I know was calling me while I was at work and I was ignoring their calls. I didn't find out untill that evening. [url=http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/djkelloggz/HALO3.jpg]I'm lazy, but I make kick ass emblems![/url] [Edited on 06.06.2007 1:12 PM PDT] I'm digging the SPLAT emblem very nice. [/quote] Which place did you get Combat? I was 2nd, were you one of the runner-ups? I like the splat emblem, pretty cool.[/quote]

I'm using that one. But it's funny; I actually had an idea quite the same as this. To match the flaming ninja, I thought of a frozen pirate. Even if I did submit it I would've lost to this one.

add more emblems too im sick of the same old blah ones...

AGREED! This emblem, granted, is well made but is definitely the wrong choice. I don't know if my emblem even got to Bungie because i'm from the UK, but mine kicks the -blam!- out of most of the runners up logos but most definitely sits, and lays a full on cleveland steamer on the winning design. There is no concept or originality.

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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] combat monkey sorry for the confusion. I was commenting on anothers post and designs. the best designe i could have come up with would have been stick figures. Everyone talks about the pirate being the opposite or nemesis for the ninja. How about a nemesis for a the rocket? like a member of green peace. or maybe an opposite for the hornet, a huge bee keeper. just some thoughts. [/quote] Haha, that's great. Or maybe a recycle symbol for the radioactive, or a tongue for the lips... Where did the whole "ninja or pirate" thing come from? I've never heard of that until now.

sorry for the confusion. I was commenting on anothers post and designs. the best designe i could have come up with would have been stick figures. Everyone talks about the pirate being the opposite or nemesis for the ninja. How about a nemesis for a the rocket? like a member of green peace. or maybe an opposite for the hornet, a huge bee keeper. just some thoughts.

Yeah, so what was your design? I'm just curious since they didn't show us the runner-ups... Here's mine: Kyle Corcoran [url=http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3775/africanelephantei1.jpg][b]African Elephant[/b][/url]

No Combat was commenting on my designs. I was a runner up.. Kelly Highland I think it's pretty cool that we placed.

thats coolawsometacular

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] combat monkey I don't know which one they liked... so I'm showing them all. I personally like the tribal looking one but i did this all on a whim. Hope you guys like. Also the pirate is cool, Congrats. I'm just glad I was on the list. Everyone I know was calling me while I was at work and I was ignoring their calls. I didn't find out untill that evening. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/djkelloggz/HALO3.jpg [Edited on 06.06.2007 1:12 PM PDT] I'm digging the SPLAT emblem very nice. [/quote] Which place did you get Combat? I was 2nd, were you one of the runner-ups? I like the splat emblem, pretty cool.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] combat monkey I don't know which one they liked... so I'm showing them all. I personally like the tribal looking one but i did this all on a whim. Hope you guys like. Also the pirate is cool, Congrats. I'm just glad I was on the list. Everyone I know was calling me while I was at work and I was ignoring their calls. I didn't find out untill that evening. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/djkelloggz/HALO3.jpg [Edited on 06.06.2007 1:12 PM PDT] I'm digging the SPLAT emblem very nice. [/quote] Whoa, I'm really liking all those emblems. VERY NICE!

I don't know which one they liked... so I'm showing them all. I personally like the tribal looking one but i did this all on a whim. Hope you guys like. Also the pirate is cool, Congrats. I'm just glad I was on the list. Everyone I know was calling me while I was at work and I was ignoring their calls. I didn't find out untill that evening. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b332/djkelloggz/HALO3.jpg [Edited on 06.06.2007 1:12 PM PDT] I'm digging the SPLAT emblem very nice.

This one just doesn't exactly 'tickle my fancy'. I mean this is way to close to the halo 2 'jolly roger'...I think you should have posted the choices for the top 25 or so and let the community pick because I know I wont be using this. A vote could pick it better than the Bungie staff who is all from the same place around the same age the which is bad. Good job!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xupaosso If you were any kind of real "Hard working artist" you, and the rest of the flamers in this thread, would understand that there is huge value in continuity and uniformity. I am a "hard working artist" - I get paid very well to be such - and the majority of my time is spent on tweaking small ideas that have been in place for a long time. I can't tell you how many times I've "copied" a previous idea or concept to save time, money, and sanity without sacrificing the quality of the work. Props out to Noah - way to go, man.[/quote] I'm in the same field, and I know exactly what you mean. Also, being in the same field, you should know that you have to adhere to a set of limitations/requirements or face the consequences (whatever they might be). I think it's commendable that Noah made a clean, consistent looking piece and stood out among the rest, but the point is he seemed to overlook a couple specifications in the rules that should have resulted in disqualification. I'm sure many others were not considered on the same grounds: [quote]Entries must be original work You may not use any existing corporation’s logos, trademarks or other identifiable images Your entry must be original, must not have been previously published ... and must have been created and owned exclusively by you Entries may not contain: firearms/weapons; any content that contains trademarks, logos; copyrighted materials owned by others (including ... other works of art or images published on or in websites, television, movies or other media)[/quote] Granted that it's all up to Bungie in the end, but it's just kind of a slap in the face to everyone that did painstakingly read and abide by all the regulations just to see the selected art violates half of them. Rules are rules, why have them if they didn't matter? It was kind of ridiculous that we weren't allowed to submit an icon with weapons for a game that embodies war, I chose to respect that rather than risk disqualification. There will always be sore losers in every contest, but I think a lot less people would have been upset if the winning entry wasn't in blatant violation of the rules.