[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 And what about the Elites joining humanity, that's never explained at all, you're simply made to assume things.[/quote] What assumptions does one have to make? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 That's why I'm coming around to Karen Traviss' portrayal of the Elites, as there was never any indication of all this love and affection between them in Halo 3. In fact, there's absolutely nothing detailed about humanity's relations with the Elites in Halo 3 at all, the only conflict between them was Hood's hissy fit at the end of Floodgate. There was no display of tension, just some Marines and Elites sat around some crates doing nothing in the hangar.[/quote] I don't see how we get to Traviss' portrayal from the fact that there is a general lack of background details [b]in Halo 3 alone[/b] with regards to the alliance.