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11/15/2006 3:54:23 PM
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Happy Halo Day!

It's hard to believe that it's been five whole years since Bungie unleashed Halo on the world! To celebrate this momentous occasion we've got a few small announcements that may be of interest to fans of the series as well as a little screenshot from a game we like to call Halo 3.

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  • 1. If you think that Halo 2 has any measurable impact on the sell-thru of Vista or that Vista needs Halo 2 to succeed, you're insane. Halo 2 is only for Vista because we're using Live Anywhere, among other Vista-specific features. 2. In that same vein, the Xbox has not been supported with new content from Microsoft itself for nearly 18 months. All 1st party development shifted to the 360, for obvious reasons. So, your choice was either nothing for Halo 2 again, ever, or new maps (and everything that comes with that - work on emulation layer for Halo 2 on the 360, continued focus on improving the banhammer for Halo 2). You are, of course, welcome to do whatever you want with our games and are free to hold us in low regard. But nobody sits here and tries to think of ways to screw you over. In both the cases of Halo 2 Vista and the new Halo 2 maps, the alternative is to not release anything. I think we chose correctly - I'd certainly prefer having Halo 2 Vista and the new maps versus not having anything. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Namegoeshere I can't stand you, Bungie. The word "Sell-out" comes to mind everytime I read one of your supposedly "great" updates. Yea, whatever, Halo 3...It's coming, yea...we know. Peopl are impressed, I care less. I will never buy a 360. Period. First I read that you guys were making Halo 2 for Vista, and I knew Microsoft had you buy the "no-nos". Only reason that IT MUST COME OUT ON VISTA is so they can sell that OS. Plain and simple. Without you, Xbox would've died. So they look to you guys to make sure Vista won't bomb. It'll run on XP just fine, but you say it won't, when clearly when you were first programming the graphics and coding Halo 2 up years ago for Xbox, Vista wasn't out. Wasn't even called Vista. Longhorn was the name, and you guys most likely coded the game in XP, or heck, even 2000. Who knows...Therefore, H2V should really be H2XP, because the original was was made and tested on the older OS, and then coded to the Xbox version and encrypted and what-not. It worked then, it should work now. But I figure I'll just rip Vista somehow, just like my XP I have on my PC. I kinda got over it. But then to read that you guys are making maps for H2, which, lets remind everyone, and, hmm..lets remind you guys since you must've forgotten somehow...that Halo 2 was made for Xbox, and the last time you guys tried to do something that would work with 360...crapped out (I'm looking at you Backwash). You're doing the same thing with Microsoft again. Halo 3 is eventually coming out, but with the lack of sales that the 360 has, especially with two other competitors FINALLY stepping in, Microsoft is getting scared and wants, NO, NEEDS something from the only good company that has made anything worth playing, to suck more people into buying their system. I'm ashamed to know you guys. I regret buying your games now. I regret that I ever had faith in you, for everytime you guys try and "do something nice", you let down a good sized chunk of your fan base, and without us, you'd have died aloooong time ago. Thanks. I'm pawning, wait...no I think I'll just give away my copy of Halo 2. [/quote]

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  • November 15th is a day all should savor as probably the most important day in FPS, and indeed, video-gaming history. It brings a tear to my eye. Happy fifth birthday, halo, and looking forward to many more. Even though I was out of town for work (getting TAM card...ugh....), I still called my fellow haloplayers and shouted happy Halo day. ...New maps, eh? A hang'em high would be extremely cool. As for being only on the 360, that does stink for oldskool halo-players, but hey, not Bungies fault. As for the comercial, I think you guys have enough on your plate. Their making a commercial, your making the GAME, so I don't mind CG. I don't like football too much, but hey, now that days in my calendar. Also, how do I get hold of the demo when it comes out? I want to be the first one in my community to try it (not likely to happen, but hey, I'll sacrifice a limb or two).

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  • Sweet! A Happy Halo Day indeed! I think any news about Halo 3 (as long as its news saying its still around) is good news. And new maps for Halo 2? Also very cool. Only for the 360? Well, then I guess I'll just have to go out and get my 360 now!

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  • Yay Happy Halo day ppls!!! well late halo day!!! But Still....anyways Tha screen shot doesnt look to good....ah well they havent exactly went back through and fine tuned the graphics....so I'll let it slide!!! Anyways Thanks Bungie!!! For The Info and everything I just wished it would of been a lil more ya'know!

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  • That screenshot looks like crap... looks like someone used clay to mold the master chief!!! I hope the graphics are better than then the screenshot or i might just go buy a PS3!

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  • people who bought a 360 to play halo2 on it = funny

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Greatest I'm not from bungie but I can surely tell your ignorant self why the new maps will only be out on 360. BECAUSE this is not an old school era. The gaming experience is coming to life more and more and those maps probably require a system such as the 360 to handle its features because xbox is too cheap to play the map. It could but the graphics would sukk. And if you don't got a 360, den't get your *** of the couch and work for it. Also part of the reason is because Bungie wants to give you the full expierence from the maps and not just cheap graphics like the xbox could provide.[/quote] it becomes obvious from reading your post that you are the ignorant one. do you actually believe that the new maps will require a 360 to play them? halo2 is an original xbox game. the 360 can play halo2, but the 360 plays it "cheaply" because it is playing it through an emulator. a crappy emulator at that. an emulator so terrible bungie had to remove one of its maps from matchmaking entirely just because of whining 360 users. emulator does not equal backward compatibility. sony has been the only one to have true backward compatibility with the playstation and ps2. the ps2's hardware allowed it to play all ps1 games. the 360 has to be programmed to play each original xbox game individually. any new maps made for halo2 will be written using original xbox code, because halo2 is an original xbox game. the 360, with the emulator upgrade, will be able to play them, but never as well as an original xbox. the 360 is a more powerful machine. but it still isn't the machine halo2 was designed for. it can't run the maps "better". in fact it is only "emulating" how an original xbox would run the game. that is why i play halo2 only on the xbox. i want to play halo2, not an emulation of it.

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  • The screenshot is awesome. Bungie changed MC's gauntlets, and these are more kick ass. Another thing I noticed.....no jaggies which is kick ass. I expected nothing less, its just cool to see it as reality.

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  • And dont be out of order with monentary issues its one of the nastiest things you can do

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  • Dident you read? there trying to get it to the xbox 1 but it might not be in there control there is quite a chance that they will put on a disk like they did the first map pack

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spawnkiller [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Greatest I'm not from bungie but I can surely tell your ignorant self why the new maps will only be out on 360. BECAUSE this is not an old school era. The gaming experience is coming to life more and more and those maps probably require a system such as the 360 to handle its features because xbox is too cheap to play the map. It could but the graphics would sukk. And if you don't got a 360, den't get your *** of the couch and work for it. Also part of the reason is because Bungie wants to give you the full expierence from the maps and not just cheap graphics like the xbox could provide.[/quote] don't be such an a$$. i am working and i'm gonna get a 360 sooner or later. i'm just saying it would be nice if the maps came out for the xbox. Before you start talking all this s**t online (what a loser) learn how to use spell check dumba$$.[/quote] He's not the only idiot in your post; you are too. You should seriously reconsider trying to avoid the language filter just to try to sound mature(tho it's not).

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  • Bleh. That's rediculous that some of the less fortunate Xbox Owners are going to be left out of the loop.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Greatest I'm not from bungie but I can surely tell your ignorant self why the new maps will only be out on 360. BECAUSE this is not an old school era. The gaming experience is coming to life more and more and those maps probably require a system such as the 360 to handle its features because xbox is too cheap to play the map. It could but the graphics would sukk. And if you don't got a 360, den't get your *** of the couch and work for it. Also part of the reason is because Bungie wants to give you the full expierence from the maps and not just cheap graphics like the xbox could provide.[/quote] don't be such an a$$. i am working and i'm gonna get a 360 sooner or later. i'm just saying it would be nice if the maps came out for the xbox. Before you start talking all this s**t online (what a loser) learn how to use spell check dumba$$.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pacific Kraken Is that a shotgun I see attached under the new AR?[/quote] WOW, how can some people be so stupid. ITS THE FRICKIN FLASHLIGHT, and that little green button turns it on. AMAZING, have you all like not played Halo CE or something? The AR practically looks the same. Although here is something interesting. The green button is on the wrong side in the pic. If you go and look at a gun laying on the ground in halo 1 so that the muzzle is pointed to the left, you see the little green button, however, if you pointed the muzzle of the AR in the new hi res pic, (nice job by the way, great pic, NOW the lighting needs a major overhaul, oh and don't just slap one texture on to him. it looks to me like the gloves are the same material as the armor plating.) Anyway, back to my original point- in the new high res pic the green button would be on the other side if the muzzle was pointed toward the left. well, i know no one will read this since it seems like it is just me babbling on and never stopping to take a breath.

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  • Definetly a good bit of news in this one but I have to say it... I really don't like this idea of the new maps only being available on the x-360. In no way am I blaiming Bungie for this as I understand where you guys are coming from but this is just bad business from Microsoft. There are already plenty of reasons to make one want to get an xbox 360 with halo 3, halo wars, the public beta, and gears of war that should be enough... it is for me. I already planned on getting my 360 come tax time. The problem is I know a couple of people, good friends of mine, that simply are not gonna be able to upgrade and this cheapens my experience with the new maps. Not only will I not be able to play against some friends, but I will also not be able to play against all the other people on live that can't upgrade. It's a simple fact that less people = less fun. I also know I'm not alone in that I prefer playing Halo 2 with the original xbox and controllers. I'm sure this has been brought up before in this thread, but does anyone know an email address for Microsoft Game Studios that handles complaints? I'm sure that if enough of Halo Nation complained they would have to do something. Lastly if you're going to respond to me saying "dude just pony up and buy a 360" don't bother. I've already stated I will be getting one... I'm just smart enough to know this will hurt the player base and provide less people for us to play against. Thank you for the new maps Bungie (it truly is awesome) but Microsoft if people can't afford a 360 they sure won't be getting a PS3 so what do you actually gain from this?

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  • Is that a shotgun I see attached under the new AR?

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  • Holy crap! That picture is amazing! When you zoom in on it, it gets even more high res! Usually its vice versa for other pictures. We are in good hands my friends...

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  • I'm not from bungie but I can surely tell your ignorant self why the new maps will only be out on 360. BECAUSE this is not an old school era. The gaming experience is coming to life more and more and those maps probably require a system such as the 360 to handle its features because xbox is too cheap to play the map. It could but the graphics would sukk. And if you don't got a 360, den't get your *** of the couch and work for it. Also part of the reason is because Bungie wants to give you the full expierence from the maps and not just cheap graphics like the xbox could provide.

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  • it's great that they are coming out with new halo 2 maps but it's not fair that its only for the 360. not everyone can afford a $400 game system.

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  • BUY A 360. Stop b!tching....

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  • I've seen the PS3 and it looks like it came out of an elephant's as**. They think that its the best console but even the dumbest person alive today know that its not true. The one thing that they'll never have is the Halo series and that's too bad. tisk tisk tisk. I am also really good at Halo and Halo 2. I am the biggest XBOX and Halo fan! My real name for my profile on Halo 2 is Halo King but it was already taken from someone who thinks there better than me. Hahahahaha. That's funny to who ever has that name. [Edited on 11/16/2006]

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  • im freaking out........new content for H2, the screenshot, and the commercial >_> im wiggin out!!!!!!!!!

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  • I like the power button on the rifle Happy belated Halo Day everyone!

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  • Well I am happy about the Beta coming out. Hopefully it is out before I go to Korea for a year. The only good thing is I will be able to get broad band internet to continue playing Halo2. The new maps coming out will be for sale on XboxLive Marketplace. Depending on How many people buy them and download them will determin if the maps a made availible for the old XBOX. One more note everyone sayin that the maps should be on the old system too. Just remember Market Place is on the 360 not the old system. So it is eaiser to just offer them there. If not enough people have them then they will more then likely have them on the old system. Remember the maps cost before they were free. I know I bought all of them when they came out only to see they were made free months later. End of Statement

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  • ohhh myyyyy.. amazing screenshot and cant wait till halo 3 beta and new halo 2 maps :O can't wait.

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  • I am looking forward to 2007. [Edited on 11/16/2006]

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