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12/9/2012 11:03:59 AM
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Why did the prehistoric humans not ask for help against the Flood?

So Humanity attacked and conquered other peaceful planets even Forerunner planets because they were fleeing for the Flood. After a 1000 year during war that eventually was born between the Humans and the Forerunners, the Humans were simply exhausted. The Forerunners almost exterminated the Humans and wanted to punish them etc... . After the Humans were devolved, the Forerunners learned that the Humans weren't actually attacking the Forerunners but fleeing from the parasite named the Flood. It was simply an act of survival. Now i wonder, how did i take a 1000 years to discover and understand the true nature of a war? If forerunners themselves were such an (almost) enlightened species they could have easily discovered the true reason of the sudden Human hostility despite their rivalry. -Couldn't the Humans just simply ask Forerunners to aid them in the battle against the Flood? The Forerunners saw themselves as the Guardians of the known galaxy, so they should have helped if needed, they were forced to help. -And even during the war that lasted 1000 years there must have been any trace of the Flood? -How many conversations can there be in a millenium? -How many interrogations during the war has there been? If i were a Forerunner and i would capture a Human, i would at first ask on which argument they attack. Or when Humans cleansed the surfaces of the Forerunner shield worlds, i as a Forerunner would simply ask why and then the Humans could have told about the parasite. No the Forerunners just reacted with a full scale armada.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307[/quote] Yes, the Forerunners hybris was their downfall, they waited to long, etc. What you've written does lay logic for the tension between them, and why it must have been a complicated and confusing time, but there's just one significant detail that overshadows everything, I'll never buy that a couple of spacefaring, slipsteaming, near intergalactic civilisations, would not be able to get a simple message across, and have it taken seriously. [i]"Urrgh! more messages from the humans, claiming they're in conflict with a ruthless parasite, next.."[/i] The humans could have sent them equipment all they knew about the parasite just in case. Of course there would be a risk involved, but it's not like the Halo saga clearly layed down a rule about humanity having [i]cried wolf[/i] several times, or that the Forerunner were so utterly dumb and in [b]denial[/b] that they would refuse to hear out an empire that was roughly the size of their own. Once apon a time, the Forerunners downfall was their hybris, it was one of their most apparent character traits; classic storytelling. But leter on, the ancient human empire was added. Fine, but adding humanity, would mean that the Forerunner would have to remain in character and act after it in order to be what they were and do what they did when the time came; underestimate the Flood, fire the rings, and retire in shame. We couldn't have them swallow their pride to help the humans now, could we? That would mean that they weren't as high up on the hubris scale would it, or that they would have to regain it[b]*[/b], and humanity can't survive, that would mess with the desired outcome? [b]*[/b]Sidenote: At first I though that having them fight together for a while but have the humans betray the Forerunners would work, but that would mess with another desired outcome; that the Flood supposedly left because of the human sacrefice. [url=http://youtu.be/C76rnDdsIF4]Halo 4 Terminal[/url]:[i] -Lord of admirals, we are in possition of the Forerunner planet. -Show me. -Population numbering over two billion, Forerunner ships on alert and inbound. -Is it possible, have we gotten ahead of it? -Flood infestation detected, my Lord.. -Damn it! -My Lord, the infestation is in a remote local, perhaps if we warn the Forerunners? -If we warn them we give the Flood time to spread, you know we have no choice.. cleanse the planet. *cuts to heavily infected Forerunner architecture*[/i] Would you agree with me if I say that the humans were portrayed as sympathising and conflicted, believing that they had no choice, that they didn't want to? Cause that would establish that they didn't regard the Forerunners as an enemy that they wouldn't even consider to warn, so why not try to warn them in the future? Did exactly all the scenarios play out the same, how long were they fighting again? Flood landed on the planet, and Forerunner ships are inbound, yet the Forerunners don't know about the Flood (the humans must have tracked it there)? If he meant that the inbound ships were infected, wouldn't he have detected it, and why would he even bring up it being in a remote local (the maps showed that it was on the surface) if that was the case? What happened to the inbound ships? How many Forerunner colonies were attacted before humanity made it there? Are the humans faster at finding and traveling to Forerunner colonies than the Forerunner themselves? Did the Flood only test the ancient human beings yet attack Forerunner colonies? Did none of the Forerunners encounter any of the Flood? Most likely not since the humans actually managed to [i]win[/i], just in time for the Forerunners not to believe them... How many planets did humanity lay ruin to because of Flood infestation (no one ruins a planet for resources, just harvest a gas giant)? If the Flood could infiltrate a Forerunner colony (if that was the case in the video), how come the humans can't send a message to them? The Forerunner couldn't know that the humans fought the Flood before they defeated them, the Didact wouldn't have had a revelation otherwise, and then his character might have been more shallow in its relasionship with the humans; guilt, etc. That's why I think it's contrived, [b]not impossible, contrived[/b]. [i]Obviously planned, artificial, or lacking in spontaneity; forced; unnatural.[/i] I hope you don't believe I'm hiding behind semantics... :P[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh So it does appear that he's forgotten everything about the Flood. Amazing how people conveniently forget details to better suit their own opinions.[/quote]You're doing the same, by making up explanations for why your version of the[i] truth[/i] work better than anyone elses. Unless you limit yourself to the information that Halo is able to provid, you're no better than I. At least I try to limit myself when discussing or mentioning the facts that matter. [Edited on 12.09.2012 9:48 AM PST]

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