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PC Building Guide and FAQ of The Flood v2.0 [ Corsair 300R $50 ]

[quote][/quote] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=72304145]Original Thread[/url] [b]Current Sales:[/b] [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139011]Corsair 300R[/url], $50 [url=http://www.frys.com/product/7253043]Corsair HX650[/url] $72 [quote][/quote][quote][/quote] [b]Table of Contents:[/b] 1) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341]Building a PC[/url] 2) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341&postRepeater1-p=1#76528353]Getting started with Windows; Software, Programs, Optimizations[/url] 3) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341&postRepeater1-p=1#76528358]Audio General; Speakers, Headphones, Souncards[/url] 4) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341&postRepeater1-p=1#76528366]Audio General; Continued[/url] 5) [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=76528341&postRepeater1-p=1#76528374]Useful Links and Builds of Other Members[/url] [quote][/quote][quote][/quote] [b]Building a PC:[/b] Taken from Cystic. If he would like, I'll type my own section. [quote]After you've gathered all your parts, I'm assuming you're going to wonder what to do with all these wires. It's a pretty simple process, Of course, and we start with the case and the psu, or if you want, the motherboard, as long as either of them are put in first, it doesn't matter. [b][u]1. Fitting the PSU[/u][/b] [i]If you want to fit the motherboard first, go to step 2 then back to step 1.[/i] Open your case up, and look for a corner that looks like it will fit a PSU in it. It should be pretty obvious, if it already isn't, there should be four or 6 mounting screw holes for the PSU, and possibly parts built into the case to keep it into place. Just slot your PSU into there and screw in the appropriate screws. [b][u]2. Motherboard [/u][/b] Your case should already have a couple of mounting screws on the side, and it's pretty straightforward to see where the motherboard belongs and how it fits in the system. The IO shield (there should be a rectangular shaped hole in the back of your PC) should pop right into the back of your case. An IO shield should look something like [url=http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/144/images/6ioshield.JPG]this[/url]. After popping in the IO shield, check your motherboard box for [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Toennchen_IMGP5029_wp.jpg]standoffs[/url] (they come in plastic too) and screw them into the case's motherboard mounting holes, then just place the motherboard over the standoffs with the inputs that align to the IO shield (as long as your IO shield isn't upside down), and then screw the motherboard into the standoffs with the provided screws. If a screw won't go in or slightly flexes the motherboard, it might be recommended to leave this screw out, just as long as your motherboard is secure and you're not having problems with fitting upgrades in the PCI slots (we'll come to those later) the motherboard won't mind having a few screws missing if it doesn't look like it's going to be moving or rattling inside the case. [b][u]3. The Processor[/u][/b] In your motherboard, there should be a socket that looks either like [url=http://www.hardcore-hardware.com/images/news/lga-2011-computex/ASUS%20DB%206%20-%20Socket%202.JPG]this[/url] (Newer Intel) or [url=http://techreport.com/r.x/socket-am3/socket-am3.jpg]this[/url] (Newer AMD), or something similar. It is very important that your socket number matches the motherboard's specifications, e.g LGA 1155 will only work with an LGA 1155 motherboard, even if an LGA 1136 looks like it's going to fit. For AMD, you'll find that they're more versatile in sockets, however, anyone can tell you that you should only vouch for AMD given that you are under a tight budget or are building a computer for relatively basic tasks. Anyway, you should see a latch on the side of the socket. Lift up the latch, (and if there's a pin protection plate, most likely on Intel motherboards remove it but do not damage it, you may need it later for RMAs.) and place the processor carefully onto the socket (try avoiding contact with the pins, there should be a small indicator such as a small triangle on the CPU and the motherboard showing which way the processor should be placed) then carefully slot the cpu into place, making sure it's in, and then you want to close the lid (for intel processors) and then press the latch down firmly and secure it. [b][u]4. The PCI expansions[/u][/b] On your motherboard, there should be a couple of PCI expansion slots, [url=http://www.naplestech.com/shopcart/images/pc_slots.gif]in their respective sizes.[/url] Now depending on the type of graphics card you buy, it should tell you which slot it goes in. Now, you start off by seeing which back plates the PCI slot is aligned to on the case, and you can begin by unscrewing the plate. You will want to do this with the case lying flat. In some cases for larger, or more powerful cards, they will use 2 of these back plates and you will need to unscrew more than one. Some PCI slots come with security latches that secure the card in place, and it should make a clicking sound when you plug the card into the slot. After the card is in place, you can use the screws you've taken out of the back panel to secure the card into the case, so that it stays there. This applies to other PCI slot accessories, e.g more USB slots, PCI wireless cards, capture cards, etc. [b][u]5. The Optical Drive/Blu-Ray Drive/SD Card reader etc.[/u][/b] Now these are very easy to install, inside the front half of your case, there should be a few slots for whichever peripherals you choose to install. Remove the front panel dust shield/filters (if you have any) for the slot you want your drive to take. Where the dust shield is removed, just slot in the drive and it should not stick out of the front panel, nor should it be pushed inward too much. After the necessary adjustments, you will see holes for screws in the side of the drive bays - you want to secure the drive in place firmly, but not too tightly, just until the screw's turning becomes slightly difficult to turn. [b][u]6. Hard Drive[/u][/b] You should see underneath where your disc drive is supposed to be {unless it's some sort of obscure case), there should be a mounting area for HDDs similar to the disc drive bays, now for some cases, you may get easy-install options, such as NZXT's clip-on and slide in. You can also purchase 2.5-3.5 inch conversion cases for your 2.5" HDD if you want to move over data from a laptop or an mATX desktop. Installation should be straight forward and very similar to the disc drives, you should have no problem installing it. Again, you only have to make sure it's secure, not tighten it to oblivion. [b][u]7. Wiring and Cable Management[/u][/b] ([i]Skip the first paragraph if you don't want to use cable management, it saves the hassle afterwards[/i]) If you have a modular PSU, only plug in the power cables you need, and for non-modular PSUs, just keep the spare wires away from the main airflow pats of the machine, you can use zip-ties and bunch them up behind the PC's back panel (if it has one) or just keep them away from the fans. First, place all of the components inside the case, including the PSU, but keep the cables outside the case. First, take the 24-pin motherboard power cable and put it through the opening closest to the PSU. Run this behind the motherboard and out the hole closest to the 24-pin motherboard connector. Do the same with the 8-pin CPU connector. This is the only cable which might not be long enough, in which case you will need one of [url=http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-8-Inch-8-Pin-Extension-EPS8EXT/dp/B000M802RG]these[/url]. Once those cables are in, you'll want to attach the SATA cables to the optical drive, HDD, and any SSD's you might have. You can either run these through the same hole as the 24-pin, or a closer hole. I generally like to use the same [url=http://www.proits-it.com/Support/skills/Photos/eSATA_TypA.jpg]SATA A[/url] cable for my HDD and optical. If needed, you can lower the position of the optical drive so that the cable will reach, or even raise your hard drives. Make sure that when you are routing these cables that they do NOT overlap on the other cables that you already have, otherwise you will not be able to easily put your side panel back on. Connect the front panel cords that are attached to your case to the bottom of the motherboard. I generally like to keep them low to the case so that they can go under the other cords and out the hole where the PSU is. You can also route them through the hole under where you inserted the 24-pin, provided you have a case with enough rubber grommets. Although I do not advise it, some builders cut off the AC97 cable that is attached to the HD Audio cable (HD > AC97) so that they have a more clean look. After this, all that's left are the GPU cables and molex cables for fans. These are pretty self-explanatory. Just remember to not overlap cords. If you don't have twist ties, you can go to your local grocery store and grab some of those green twist ties in the produce section. You also might have some that came with your PC components. I'll post my build with labels once my H100 comes back from Corsair.[/quote] [url=http://imgur.com/a/oqpHx]Infographics[/url] (NSFW on the mousepad image). 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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XxJakeMasterxX [url=http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI2NTk]Phoronix is leaning towards E3[/url], but you never know.[/quote] I'd be fine with an E3 reveal....and maybe a little Half-Life 3 to go along with it?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP Not really. Gigabyte is definitely a reliable brand, I'd hardly call it a gamble. You could say buying any motherboard is a gamble, since they all have the possibility of failing.[/quote]Stats don't lie. AsRock has the lowest failure rate, hands down. Each of their boards is hand-tested using Prime95.[/quote]Never said they weren't reliable. Just saying Gigabyte is a good motherboard brand to get from, along with ASUS.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP Not really. Gigabyte is definitely a reliable brand, I'd hardly call it a gamble. You could say buying any motherboard is a gamble, since they all have the possibility of failing.[/quote]Stats don't lie. AsRock has the lowest failure rate, hands down. Each of their boards is hand-tested using Prime95.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SuicidalSplatter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote]What does Gigabyte have over the Asrock?[/quote]Better VRM's than the ASRock board, the UD3H has more USB3 ports than the Extreme 4. More PCI connectors, too. Really doesn't matter too much, I also think the Gigabyte board looks better than the ugly brown and black on the Extreme 4.[/quote] Asrock has the lowest return rate though, so that's one reason I recommend them.[/quote]Yeah, the Gigabyte board is definitely a gamble, but it's the better choice performance-wise.[/quote]Not really. Gigabyte is definitely a reliable brand, I'd hardly call it a gamble. You could say buying any motherboard is a gamble, since they all have the possibility of failing. [Edited on 01.05.2013 11:10 AM PST]

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  • Still, if you have a gaming PC, I don't know why you'd get this thing if it doesn't have games exclusive to it.

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  • [url=http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI2NTk]Phoronix is leaning towards E3[/url], but you never know.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XxJakeMasterxX Valve's "Steambox" is coming in 2013. Possible reveal at GDC or E3. You probably already know it's Linux based.[/quote] CES maybe?

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  • Valve's "Steambox" is coming in 2013. Possible reveal at GDC or E3. You probably already know it's Linux based.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SuicidalSplatter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote]What does Gigabyte have over the Asrock?[/quote]Better VRM's than the ASRock board, the UD3H has more USB3 ports than the Extreme 4. More PCI connectors, too. Really doesn't matter too much, I also think the Gigabyte board looks better than the ugly brown and black on the Extreme 4.[/quote] Asrock has the lowest return rate though, so that's one reason I recommend them.[/quote]Yeah, the Gigabyte board is definitely a gamble, but it's the better choice performance-wise.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote]What does Gigabyte have over the Asrock?[/quote]Better VRM's than the ASRock board, the UD3H has more USB3 ports than the Extreme 4. More PCI connectors, too. Really doesn't matter too much, I also think the Gigabyte board looks better than the ugly brown and black on the Extreme 4.[/quote] Asrock has the lowest return rate though, so that's one reason I recommend them.

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  • [quote]What does Gigabyte have over the Asrock?[/quote]Better VRM's than the ASRock board, the UD3H has more USB3 ports than the Extreme 4. More PCI connectors, too. Really doesn't matter too much, I also think the Gigabyte board looks better than the ugly brown and black on the Extreme 4. [Edited on 01.05.2013 10:46 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SuicidalSplatter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP[/quote]He has $1500. Don't skimp out on the case. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w1t1]My suggestion.[/url][/quote]Yeah, a better case over more SSD space is probably best. But you should still get the Gigabyte board and 7970.[/quote] Personally, I think the Extreme4 is great, I'd recommend it. And I would also recommend the 670 over the 7970, especially at that price.[/quote]The ASRock board is good, but the Gigabyte board would still be a better choice.[/quote] What does Gigabyte have over the Asrock?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SuicidalSplatter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP[/quote]He has $1500. Don't skimp out on the case. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w1t1]My suggestion.[/url][/quote]Yeah, a better case over more SSD space is probably best. But you should still get the Gigabyte board and 7970.[/quote] Personally, I think the Extreme4 is great, I'd recommend it. And I would also recommend the 670 over the 7970, especially at that price.[/quote]The ASRock board is good, but the Gigabyte board would still be a better choice.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP[/quote]He has $1500. Don't skimp out on the case. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w1t1]My suggestion.[/url][/quote]Yeah, a better case over more SSD space is probably best. But you should still get the Gigabyte board and 7970.[/quote] Personally, I think the Extreme4 is great, I'd recommend it. And I would also recommend the 670 over the 7970, especially at that price.

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  • Aw they fixed the price.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP[/quote]He has $1500. Don't skimp out on the case. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w1t1]My suggestion.[/url][/quote]Yeah, a better case over more SSD space is probably best. But you should still get the Gigabyte board and 7970.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SuicidalSplatter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SuicidalSplatter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP[/quote]He has $1500. Don't skimp out on the case. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w1t1]My suggestion.[/url][/quote] I agree with this, but I'd choose a better 670.[/quote]I was trying to keep it below $1500 even before rebates (which Salty didn't do), although I suppose he could get [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787]this[/url] instead.[/quote] Yeah, that looks good. But will that really be a lot more powerful than the one you chose?[/quote]It has a clock speed that is roughly 10% faster, so yes. He could get a 7970, but as someone who has used nVidia and Radeon cards, I vastly prefer nVidia. Besides, you won't notice anything above 60 FPS on a 60 Hz monitor, so you might as well get the card with the better features.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SuicidalSplatter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP[/quote]He has $1500. Don't skimp out on the case. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w1t1]My suggestion.[/url][/quote] I agree with this, but I'd choose a better 670.[/quote]I was trying to keep it below $1500 even before rebates (which Salty didn't do), although I suppose he could get [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787]this[/url] instead.[/quote] Yeah, that looks good. But will that really be a lot more powerful than the one you chose? [Edited on 01.05.2013 10:23 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SuicidalSplatter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP[/quote]He has $1500. Don't skimp out on the case. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w1t1]My suggestion.[/url][/quote] I agree with this, but I'd choose a better 670.[/quote]I was trying to keep it below $1500 even before rebates (which Salty barely did), although I suppose he could get [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787]this[/url] instead. [Edited on 01.05.2013 10:22 AM PST]

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  • [url=http://store.steampowered.com/app/202170/]Sleeping Dogs is 91% off[/url] gogogogogogogogo

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PMC Fluffy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP[/quote]He has $1500. Don't skimp out on the case. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w1t1]My suggestion.[/url][/quote] I agree with this, but I'd choose a better 670.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] THE SALTY CHIP[/quote]He has $1500. Don't skimp out on the case. [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w1t1]My suggestion.[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sand Grenade5656 Helping my friend build a PC, he has a 1500$ budget, how does this look to you gentlemen? Any changes I should make? [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w0Xo]:D[/url][/quote][url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w1qj]Get this[/url] Mine has: An after market cooler Better motherboard 256GB SSD Better video card Doesn't have 16GB of RAM, because that's unnecessary Case - It's cheaper, but still a good case. You can switch it back to the Phantom 410 if you want to. 80+ Bronze and Semi-Modular PSU

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  • Also Fluffy, it's IPS not ISP. :P IPS = In-plane switching which equates in excellent viewing angles. Some examples of IPS displays are the Retina Display on iPhone 4, 4S and 5 and iPad (all) screens. [Edited on 01.05.2013 9:50 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sand Grenade5656 Helping my friend build a PC, he has a 1500$ budget, how does this look to you gentlemen? Any changes I should make? [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/w0Xo]:D[/url][/quote]CPU: Perfect. Mobo: It's a P67, which is several generations older than the current. Get an AsRock Z77 Extreme4 instead. RAM: If he really needs 16GB of RAM, get a 2x8GB setup instead. It's cheaper, will use less watts, and will allow you to overclock the CPU by a little bit more. If he's only gaming / hosting servers, 8GB will suffice. HDD: Perf. GPU: The difference between the [url=http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/555?vs=598]680 and 670[/url] is so little that I believe it does not merit an extra $100. I would suggest [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782]this one.[/url] Case: That case is great, although I'd like you to be aware of some of the other choices. NZXT Switch 810, Corsair 500R, Corsair 600T. PSU: I'd stay away from a Rosewill. There's nothing wrong with the brand, but for that price, you can do better. He only needs 600W at the most (will use 500W-ish), so I would get an [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095]M12ii[/url]. Optical: Lol. Use it once for Windows and you're done. Monitor: Here's the only component that I have a major qualm with. It's ~$250 For a monitor that isn't LED, isn't IPS, and doesn't run at 120 Hz. [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153]This[/url] would be a much better, cheaper equivalent, and [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824260054]this[/url] would be a much better, equal price equivalent. Yeah, I know that it has an 8ms response rate, but response rate =/= how fast the screen actually responds. OS: Well, if you want to waste $100 on Windows, be my guest. [Edited on 01.05.2013 9:50 AM PST]

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  • I'd get a newer motherboard. Go for the ASUS P8Z77-V or the ASRock Z77 Extreme4.

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