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10/13/2012 10:10:10 PM
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Jun's return
Any theories on when, or if Jun will ever return to Halo?
I might not be aware of it, but is there any novels which he is in perhaps?
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343i have not adopted it as official canon. Levi's stuff is great, but not canon.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cameo_cream Kill off Reach canon 343.[/quote]
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Kill off Reach canon 343. [Edited on 10.14.2012 6:04 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kenger Benger [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sandtrap [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief 343i said that Jun shall return but they don't know when. Or something along those lines.[/quote] Actually, Frankie said they have absolutely no plans to do anything with Jun. All logical evidence points to him being dead anyway, while there's no outright source stating that he is dead, there's overwhelming evidence pointing to there being no other option but him being dead. He's not with Halsey at CASTLE Base when Red Team arrive, and he doesn't escape the planet with them when Chief arrives in the Ascendant Justice when the last off-planet exfiltration craft on the continent was the Pillar of Autumn beforehand. I don't know why anyone would want such a horrid character to return anyway. Not only was he the dullest 'character' in Noble Team, he served absolutely no role in the 'story' of the game at all.[/quote] [url=http://leviathan.bungie.org/afoa/archives/4]Here ya go.[/url][/quote] I like this.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CoRaMo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CoRaMo 343i will never be able to do better than A Fistful of Arrows.[/quote] 343i didn't create that. It was fan-made.[/quote] No frickin' duh. Where in my statement did I say 343 Industries created A Fistful of Arrows? I am saying that they won't be able to come up with a story for Jun that is better than Leviathan's.[/quote] Whoa, calm down. Chill. It was the way you worded it. You made it sound like you thought 343i created it. Jesus ...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief 343i said that Jun shall return but they don't know when. Or something along those lines.[/quote] Actually, Frankie said they have absolutely no plans to do anything with Jun. All logical evidence points to him being dead anyway, while there's no outright source stating that he is dead, there's overwhelming evidence pointing to there being no other option but him being dead. He's not with Halsey at CASTLE Base when Red Team arrive, and he doesn't escape the planet with them when Chief arrives in the Ascendant Justice when the last off-planet exfiltration craft on the continent was the Pillar of Autumn beforehand. I don't know why anyone would want such a horrid character to return anyway. Not only was he the dullest 'character' in Noble Team, he served absolutely no role in the 'story' of the game at all.[/quote] Heavens forbid giving someone else the chance to expand on the character! How dare the thought of developing Jun into a well-rounded character even exist! Second chances are absolutely stupid. Secondly, Halsey said she elected to stay behind while CASTLE was evacuated, in case someone needed to activate WHITE GLOVE and destroy the base. Since Jun gets Halsey to CASTLE before it is evacuated (if not, then that would mean that Halsey could not elect to stay behind and that no one was left defending the base, which is even stupider) there is the chance that Jun left with the rest of CASTLE's occupants.[/quote] What Xd said. There were still people at CASTLE Base when Halsey arrived as she volunteered to stay behind...and as far as I know 343i didn't change that line of dialogue when they re-released First Strike. So seeing as there were still people at CASTLE when they arrived, and Jun isn't there and it's so very incredibly unlikely that he died enroute to the base, Jun very likely left as an escort to the people evacuating CASTLE Base...whether he survived or not, or they did we don't know, plenty of people did actually get off of Reach.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Old Salty27 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bagan bodies 2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sandtrap [url=http://leviathan.bungie.org/afoa/archives/4]Here ya go.[/url][/quote] > have already read > is not canon Your point?[/quote] Didn't 343 adopt it as official canon?[/quote] What?! When did that happen?[/quote] It didn't.
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I really, really do not know why Bungie didn't outright kill him. Another of Reach's uncountable failures I suppose.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bagan bodies 2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sandtrap [url=http://leviathan.bungie.org/afoa/archives/4]Here ya go.[/url][/quote] > have already read > is not canon Your point?[/quote] Didn't 343 adopt it as official canon?[/quote] What?! When did that happen?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CoRaMo 343i will never be able to do better than A Fistful of Arrows.[/quote] 343i didn't create that. It was fan-made.[/quote] No frickin' duh. Where in my statement did I say 343 Industries created A Fistful of Arrows? I am saying that they won't be able to come up with a story for Jun that is better than Leviathan's. [Edited on 10.13.2012 8:23 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HundredJono [url=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tgO0cZh7qUY/Tg5k-CL1vaI/AAAAAAAAAGI/GetMZbmataA/s1600/halo3_122758784_Full.jpg]This is from Halo 3 ODST, and its a memorial to Reach.[/url] Jun's name is on there so he must be dead.[/quote] As we don't know Jun's second name it could be a different Jun.[/quote] Bungie was making both games concurrently. Seeing as how it's a memorial to those who died on Reach, it's very likely. Also, you find an Emile on that wall, too. I think I took a screenshot of it, it might be in my files.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sandtrap [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief 343i said that Jun shall return but they don't know when. Or something along those lines.[/quote] Actually, Frankie said they have absolutely no plans to do anything with Jun. All logical evidence points to him being dead anyway, while there's no outright source stating that he is dead, there's overwhelming evidence pointing to there being no other option but him being dead. He's not with Halsey at CASTLE Base when Red Team arrive, and he doesn't escape the planet with them when Chief arrives in the Ascendant Justice when the last off-planet exfiltration craft on the continent was the Pillar of Autumn beforehand. I don't know why anyone would want such a horrid character to return anyway. Not only was he the dullest 'character' in Noble Team, he served absolutely no role in the 'story' of the game at all.[/quote] [url=http://leviathan.bungie.org/afoa/archives/4]Here ya go.[/url][/quote] I like this.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sandtrap [url=http://leviathan.bungie.org/afoa/archives/4]Here ya go.[/url][/quote] > have already read > is not canon Your point?[/quote] Didn't 343 adopt it as official canon?
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He turned into an Elite and is now attacking Master Chief.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HundredJono [url=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tgO0cZh7qUY/Tg5k-CL1vaI/AAAAAAAAAGI/GetMZbmataA/s1600/halo3_122758784_Full.jpg]This is from Halo 3 ODST, and its a memorial to Reach.[/url] Jun's name is on there so he must be dead.[/quote]Spartans never die, they just go missing in action.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sandtrap [url=http://leviathan.bungie.org/afoa/archives/4]Here ya go.[/url][/quote] > have already read > is not canon Your point?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief 343i said that Jun shall return but they don't know when. Or something along those lines.[/quote] Actually, Frankie said they have absolutely no plans to do anything with Jun. All logical evidence points to him being dead anyway, while there's no outright source stating that he is dead, there's overwhelming evidence pointing to there being no other option but him being dead. He's not with Halsey at CASTLE Base when Red Team arrive, and he doesn't escape the planet with them when Chief arrives in the Ascendant Justice when the last off-planet exfiltration craft on the continent was the Pillar of Autumn beforehand. I don't know why anyone would want such a horrid character to return anyway. Not only was he the dullest 'character' in Noble Team, he served absolutely no role in the 'story' of the game at all.[/quote] [url=http://leviathan.bungie.org/afoa/archives/4]Here ya go.[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HundredJono [url=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tgO0cZh7qUY/Tg5k-CL1vaI/AAAAAAAAAGI/GetMZbmataA/s1600/halo3_122758784_Full.jpg]This is from Halo 3 ODST, and its a memorial to Reach.[/url] Jun's name is on there so he must be dead.[/quote] As we don't know Jun's second name it could be a different Jun.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CoRaMo 343i will never be able to do better than A Fistful of Arrows.[/quote] 343i didn't create that. It was fan-made.
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[url=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tgO0cZh7qUY/Tg5k-CL1vaI/AAAAAAAAAGI/GetMZbmataA/s1600/halo3_122758784_Full.jpg]This is from Halo 3 ODST, and its a memorial to Reach.[/url] Jun's name is on there so he must be dead.
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343i will never be able to do better than A Fistful of Arrows.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief 343i said that Jun shall return but they don't know when. Or something along those lines.[/quote] Actually, Frankie said they have absolutely no plans to do anything with Jun. All logical evidence points to him being dead anyway, while there's no outright source stating that he is dead, there's overwhelming evidence pointing to there being no other option but him being dead. He's not with Halsey at CASTLE Base when Red Team arrive, and he doesn't escape the planet with them when Chief arrives in the Ascendant Justice when the last off-planet exfiltration craft on the continent was the Pillar of Autumn beforehand. I don't know why anyone would want such a horrid character to return anyway. Not only was he the dullest 'character' in Noble Team, he served absolutely no role in the 'story' of the game at all.[/quote] Heavens forbid giving someone else the chance to expand on the character! How dare the thought of developing Jun into a well-rounded character even exist! Second chances are absolutely stupid. Secondly, Halsey said she elected to stay behind while CASTLE was evacuated, in case someone needed to activate WHITE GLOVE and destroy the base. Since Jun gets Halsey to CASTLE before it is evacuated (if not, then that would mean that Halsey could not elect to stay behind and that no one was left defending the base, which is even stupider) there is the chance that Jun left with the rest of CASTLE's occupants.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief 343i said that Jun shall return but they don't know when. Or something along those lines.[/quote] Actually, Frankie said they have absolutely no plans to do anything with Jun. All logical evidence points to him being dead anyway, while there's no outright source stating that he is dead, there's overwhelming evidence pointing to there being no other option but him being dead. He's not with Halsey at CASTLE Base when Red Team arrive, and he doesn't escape the planet with them when Chief arrives in the Ascendant Justice when the last off-planet exfiltration craft on the continent was the Pillar of Autumn beforehand. I don't know why anyone would want such a horrid character to return anyway. Not only was he the dullest 'character' in Noble Team, he served absolutely no role in the 'story' of the game at all.
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Fair enough,I'd love for him to come back. Make some epic return into the Universe. Although it would've made more sense if all of Noble Team had fallen, but oh well.
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343i said that Jun shall return but they don't know when. Or something along those lines.
