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9/12/2012 10:44:09 AM
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Should "better" members be recognised?

By "better" I refer to members (or groups of members) who make contributions to the community. For instance, by the way they post, sharing their artwork, stories, organising game nights, etc... Why not have a way of identifying the role models in this community?

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  • Should they? Of course. Will they? Now that's just silly.

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  • I like that idea. I have a few questions though: 1) Will there be "badges" for various things, or just for being a responsible member of the community? 2) Will there be a set amount of "badges" available at any one time? 3) Do members have to have been members for a certain amount of time before they can be considered for a "badge"?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dazarobbo By "better" I refer to members (or groups of members) who make contributions to the community. For instance, by the way they post, sharing their artwork, stories, organising game nights, etc... Why not have a way of identifying the role models in this community?[/quote] What do you think of having a basic symbol or pattern on "appreciated" members title bars. If Deej or Ninja's think someone is doing good work in the community, they could give that member the mark and it would stay on that members bar for 3 days or something. It would be a separate system from the title system.

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  • It could be like the way the halotracker members have special symbols? Because to me that way of doing things works.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Obi Wan Stevobi OMG Bungie, announce your game, now we're talking about member titles within member titles. We need to get back to talking about murdering each other online.[/quote]Impossible since the Flood would rather discuss "other" types of murder.

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  • OMG Bungie, announce your game, now we're talking about member titles within member titles. We need to get back to talking about murdering each other online.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Grimaldus Hey daz, is this another idea to put a halt to alternate accounts by giving one account some sort of value?[/quote]Perhaps unintentionally, yes. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Aang the Avatar One reason I like Bungie over all the other forums because it's free of all that over complicated, unnecessary BS like custom titles, Avatars, liking posts, etc. let's keep it that way. [/quote]I agree; avatars are pretty unnecessary. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] L00 If they're "better" by this definition, won't they be recognized anyway? Or by recognized, did you mean some form of rewarded as well?[/quote]Kind of like an award, but just a way of indicating to others who may not have seen the member before (ie. new users) that he/she has been deemed a good role model for the community for others to look up to (and as a good source of information - especially about the site). [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mind Reaper 771 And yet everyone else's thoughts and opinions are just glazed over like they aren't even there, which [i]will[/i] happen, as it already does?[/quote]That doesn't mean they will go unread. Consider it this way: if someone who has consistently proven themselves to have good/right answers, why shouldn't those be prominently displayed, especially when asking a simple question? Others' posts will still be there and can be read. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mind Reaper 771 How is that fair to [i]them[/i], those who aren't [i]better[/i]? It isn't It's unfair as it is, so in a sense you're just asking for potentially good input to be thrown away in favor of a post that has nothing to do with the topic itself, which the Moderators themselves have perfected in a sense.[/quote]No. See above. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mind Reaper 771 What you are proposing will no doubt destroy whatever sense of equality that this website still has left for the regular, average members who post here. This is a friendly place for us all to come together on equal terms, and just discuss or debate whatever might be on our minds, within reason of course. We have titles and such, but asking for a way for people to be seen and recognized on the spot is asking for more complaints, more pissed of users, and a larger gap between those well-known, and those who are seemingly invisible. Asking for something that makes people [i]better[/i] than you isn't going to improve a user-friendly attitude, hell the very idea of having people better than me in one of the few places I can freely speak my mind makes me feel sick. This is basically just asking for Elitism.[/quote]Again, no. This doesn't [i]make[/i] them better, it simply points out to others that specific users have been deemed a good member by some authority (eg. Bungie) and should probably be recognised for it. For instance, perhaps they consistently post in a respectable manner and this behaviour should therefore be highlighted in the community for others to follow. So in that sense, they're already "better". All I'm asking is a whether it should be displayed in some way.

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  • Having a recognition system would in my opinion destroy this community. However it may have some benefits. It could encourage better behaviour and more positive contributions.

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  • Not really. Don't want to rally up the elitism and popularity issue.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dazarobbo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mind Reaper 771 People show preference to those who show accomplishment or achievement, and you are kind of just asking for that to occur on a more frequent basis than it already does when something of this sort is implemented.[/quote]Absolutely. You know why? Because sometimes it's not worth reading everyone's opinion. If I ask a question about something I know nothing about, I would much rather get a response from/read a post from someone who I know knows what they're talking about. And that isn't just true of myself either. For instance, why do you think people [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74686485]want to be able to quickly find a Bungie employee's post[/url] in a topic? I'd wager a guess that it's because what they've posted may be authoritative in some way, and nobody wants to miss reading something like that.[/quote]And yet everyone else's thoughts and opinions are just glazed over like they aren't even there, which [i]will[/i] happen, as it already does? How is that fair to [i]them[/i], those who aren't [i]better[/i]? It isn't It's unfair as it is, so in a sense you're just asking for potentially good input to be thrown away in favor of a post that has nothing to do with the topic itself, which the Moderators themselves have perfected in a sense. What you are proposing will no doubt destroy whatever sense of equality that this website still has left for the regular, average members who post here. This is a friendly place for us all to come together on equal terms, and just discuss or debate whatever might be on our minds, within reason of course. We have titles and such, but asking for a way for people to be seen and recognized on the spot is asking for more complaints, more pissed of users, and a larger gap between those well-known, and those who are seemingly invisible. Asking for something that makes people [i]better[/i] than you isn't going to improve a user-friendly attitude, hell the very idea of having people better than me in one of the few places I can freely speak my mind makes me feel sick. This is basically just asking for Elitism. [Edited on 09.14.2012 2:01 PM PDT]

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  • It would be nice to recognize those who contribute to this community.

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  • It may encourage a more helpful and polite community.... But it could also lead to even more ass-kissing than we already have.

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  • It would just turn into a popularity contest.

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    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dazarobbo By "better" I refer to members (or groups of members) who make contributions to the community. For instance, by the way they post, sharing their artwork, stories, organising game nights, etc... Why not have a way of identifying the role models in this community?[/quote]If they're "better" by this definition, won't they be recognized anyway? Or by recognized, did you mean some form of rewarded as well?

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  • Perhaps you could start with a list of "core values" that this site holds in high regard. Technological prowess Artistic aptitude Respect and courtesy Things of that nature.... After having found the list of values, you could devise a plan for recognition. My only concern is that in the end these stamps of recognition will become a job, much like your moderating, resulting in typecasting and prevent other users input. Not to mention, the recognized member may not want to be riddled with questions about their said status. Say your a tech savvy guy, do you really want all tech questions suddenly being directed your way? Perhaps a behind the scenes acknowledgement might work just as well.

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  • One reason I like Bungie over all the other forums because it's free of all that over complicated, unnecessary BS like custom titles, Avatars, liking posts, etc. let's keep it that way.

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  • I like this idea. The only way I can really see people being recognised is via titles.

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  • A badge system could be made. Like you share artwork get and artist bade.

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  • Hey daz, is this another idea to put a halt to alternate accounts by giving one account some sort of value?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Niko Jims So basically Recon for the forums? Sounds horrifying.[/quote] I am NOT horrifying! Mom! Mommmmmm! Someone on the Internet is calling me horrifying! Mommm? [Edited on 09.14.2012 12:17 AM PDT]

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  • So basically Recon for the forums? Sounds horrifying. [Edited on 09.13.2012 11:56 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mass Craziness Perhaps they should. But, on what grounds do we identify "better" members?[/quote]Everyone on my level is a better member. Edit: To avoid confusion, I don't mean Mythic. Although I'll probably be back to Legendary in a few days, not all Mythic members are on my level. [Edited on 09.13.2012 9:08 PM PDT]

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  • Perhaps they should. But, on what grounds do we identify "better" members? General opinion? A vote from employees (the ninjas are the "better" members and have a job.) A vote from the ninjas? A vote from the people with a large list of people who've done stuff? Then, you need to implement what you do with it. I certainly would like to see who people think are the "better" members, but, then again, I may still dislike them. Now, it all depends on the criteria of the "better"ness of them.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mind Reaper 771 People show preference to those who show accomplishment or achievement, and you are kind of just asking for that to occur on a more frequent basis than it already does when something of this sort is implemented.[/quote]Absolutely. You know why? Because sometimes it's not worth reading everyone's opinion. If I ask a question about something I know nothing about, I would much rather get a response from/read a post from someone who I know knows what they're talking about. And that isn't just true of myself either. For instance, why do you think people [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74686485]want to be able to quickly find a Bungie employee's post[/url] in a topic? I'd wager a guess that it's because what they've posted may be authoritative in some way, and nobody wants to miss reading something like that.

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  • There is an issue with that kind of publicity though, one that I myself am fairly used to observing from the opposite end of the spectrum. You can deny it when I say it, but what happens when you Ninjas post in a thread? What happens when an Employee does it? You know, I know. The posts of the lesser/ newer members are lost in the sea of data flow, and no one seemingly cares that they had anything to stay at all. If this were to happen, it would be similar to that. People show preference to those who show accomplishment or achievement, and you are kind of just asking for that to occur on a more frequent basis than it already does when something of this sort is implemented. Besides, I hate to say it, but we wouldn't even [i]need[/i] for a way to show it on this site. It already happens. We are a close-knit community, people usually know regardless about who is successful and who isn't. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dazarobbo By "better" I refer to members (or groups of members) who make contributions to the community. For instance, by the way they post, sharing their artwork, stories, organising game nights, etc... Why not have a way of identifying the role models in this community?[/quote]

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  • Yes, yes I should be.

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