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8/19/2012 3:47:05 PM
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Who's in the right? Me or my mother?
So, not too long ago, I decided to have a pizza for lunch. I retrieved the pizza from the freezer. I put it next to the chopping board (I like peppers on my pizza). I started to dice some green peppers when my mother walks in and turns the oven on. She then said, "Hurry up 'cus the oven's on". I chuckled and said, "Well turn the oven off then". So she then responded, "Just hurry the hell up or stop being so -blam!- lazy and turn it off yourself".
I turned to her with an expression mixed between anger and confusion. I asked her what the hell was with the attitude. She shouted at me and told me not to speak to her like that. I told her to drop the damned attitude and I wouldn't. She picked up my frozen pizza, put it back in the freezer and said, "If you want pizza you can buy your own". I carried on chopping my peppers and a few minutes later she came back with the pizza and stood next to me. I turned to her and asked what she wanted. "What? I don't get a thank you for bringing you the pizza back?" was her response. I scoffed and said, "Sorry, I didn't realise I'm supposed to be grateful when you act your age".
I put my pizza in the oven with the added peppers and sat down in the living room. Another few minutes passed and she walked in and said, "No matter what we argue about, you shouldn't talk to me like that. I'm your mother". I told her, "You may be the reason I'm here, but I'm not going to inherently respect you. I am grateful for what I have but it doesn't mean I respect you at all. You argue with me, dad and gan-gan; it isn't us. You make your own stress and anger. Lose the attitude, calm the hell down and then I'll show you the respect you want".
So Flood, whose side are you on?
[Edited on 08.19.2012 8:00 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight I called you an idiot because you believe everything you're saying is correct and that parenting is the same for everybody. And you come across as an arrogant, egotistical prick. And it's not nonsensical... People have managed to have a good debate about this and it's lasted 8 pages. It's a successful thread. [/quote] I never said there is one right way to parent. But disrespect is disrespect. Whether your parents tolerate or not is another thing and is solely dependent on their discretion. The only one being arrogant is you because you refuse to realize why you were wrong in talking back to your mother. This generation is breeding prideful little brats running around who think their parents are their siblings. [Edited on 08.19.2012 1:16 PM PDT]
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I know someone where if you are doing something wrong according to them, they'll immediately start yelling. Some people really need to just calm down.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Covenant Crates [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight I called you an idiot because you believe everything you're saying is correct and that parenting is the same for everybody. And you come across as an arrogant, egotistical prick. And it's not nonsensical... People have managed to have a good debate about this and it's lasted 8 pages. It's a successful thread. [/quote] I never said there is one right way to parent. But disrespect is disrespect. Whether your parents tolerate or not is another thing. The only one being arrogant is you because you refuse to realize why you were wrong in talking back to your mother. [/quote] If you consider that talking back then I'd fear holding a conversation with your parents. It wasn't a witty or snide remark, I was just responding to her unnecessarily turning on the oven and telling me to hurry up.
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I guess I was on your side until: [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight I put my pizza in the oven with the added peppers and sat down in the living room. Another few minutes passed and she walked in and said, "No matter what we argue about, you shouldn't talk to me like that. I'm your mother". I told her, "You may be the reason I'm here, but I'm not going to inherently respect you. I am grateful for what I have but it doesn't mean I respect you at all. You argue with me, dad and gan-gan; it isn't us. You make your own stress and anger. Lose the attitude, calm the hell down and then I'll show you the respect you want".[/quote]You acted like an ungrateful douche. Not respecting someone doesn't prevent you from saying thank you or being polite. [Edited on 08.19.2012 1:19 PM PDT]
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You did the right thing; I would know. Bum bum BUM! No, but seriously, you did the right thing.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] squirrel dude I guess I was on your side until: [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight I put my pizza in the oven with the added peppers and sat down in the living room. Another few minutes passed and she walked in and said, "No matter what we argue about, you shouldn't talk to me like that. I'm your mother". I told her, "You may be the reason I'm here, but I'm not going to inherently respect you. [i][b]I am grateful for what I have[/i][/b] but it doesn't mean I respect you at all. You argue with me, dad and gan-gan; it isn't us. You make your own stress and anger. Lose the attitude, calm the hell down and then I'll show you the respect you want".[/quote]You acted like an ungrateful douche. [/quote] I stated quite clearly that I am grateful towards my parents.
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Don't be a dick, bottom line. She bought the food and supplied the means to cook it. Be grateful and keep your mouth shut.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight If you consider that talking back then I'd fear holding a conversation with your parents. It wasn't a witty or snide remark, I was just responding to her unnecessarily turning on the oven and telling me to hurry up.[/quote] My parents are some of the most laid-back parents out there. We joke around all the time, but there is a clear line that shouldn't be crossed and back-talking is one of them. You should reread my washing machine example. There are ways to express your disdain for their actions without coming off as a smartass.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Saint of Taint Don't be a dick, bottom line. She bought the food and supplied the means to cook it. Be grateful and keep your mouth shut.[/quote] Again, I am grateful. Again, I wasn't a dick, initially. Again, I retaliated to her overreaction.
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A little compassion from your side would have helped. I would have been lynched if I EVER said anything of the sort. You sound very ungrateful. Perhaps her providing for you is the cause of her stress? I'd go and apologize to her. You were wrong. Man up.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Covenant Crates [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight If you consider that talking back then I'd fear holding a conversation with your parents. It wasn't a witty or snide remark, I was just responding to her unnecessarily turning on the oven and telling me to hurry up.[/quote] My parents are some of the most laid-back parents out there. We joke around all the time, but there is a clear line that shouldn't be crossed and back-talking is one of them. You should reread my washing machine example. There are ways to express your disdain for their actions without coming off as a smartass. [/quote] My point is that saying that wouldn't have caused an issue. Her aggressive and totally unnecessary reaction caught me off guard.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xAvery Johnson A little compassion from your side would have helped. I would have been lynched if I EVER said anything of the sort. You sound very ungrateful. Perhaps her providing for you is the cause of her stress? I'd go and apologize to her. You were wrong. Man up.[/quote] Again, I am grateful. Respect and gratitude are two different things to me. And no, we've already established that that is not the cause of the stress.
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Retaliating to an overreaction is childish as well, regardless of your age. Something may have been amiss and she may have been in a -blam!- mood. That is her prerogative. Your job as a child/teen/mooch who doesn't pay for goods is to accept the good attitudes with the bad. Making smart-ass comments to your mom gets you no where. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Saint of Taint Don't be a dick, bottom line. She bought the food and supplied the means to cook it. Be grateful and keep your mouth shut.[/quote] Again, I am grateful. Again, I wasn't a dick, initially. Again, I retaliated to her overreaction.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Saint of Taint Retaliating to an overreaction is childish as well, regardless of your age. Something may have been amiss and she may have been in a -blam!- mood. That is her prerogative. Your job as a child/teen/mooch who doesn't pay for goods is to accept the good attitudes with the bad. Making smart-ass comments to your mom gets you no where. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Saint of Taint Don't be a dick, bottom line. She bought the food and supplied the means to cook it. Be grateful and keep your mouth shut.[/quote] Again, I am grateful. Again, I wasn't a dick, initially. Again, I retaliated to her overreaction.[/quote][/quote] We've already established that my comment was in no way snide or smart-assey and she was not already in a foul mood. I'm not going to let her shout and swear at me when I did nothing wrong.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] squirrel dude I guess I was on your side until: [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight I put my pizza in the oven with the added peppers and sat down in the living room. Another few minutes passed and she walked in and said, "No matter what we argue about, you shouldn't talk to me like that. I'm your mother". I told her, "You may be the reason I'm here, but I'm not going to inherently respect you. [i][b]I am grateful for what I have[/i][/b] but it doesn't mean I respect you at all. You argue with me, dad and gan-gan; it isn't us. You make your own stress and anger. Lose the attitude, calm the hell down and then I'll show you the respect you want".[/quote]You acted like an ungrateful douche. [/quote] I stated quite clearly that I am grateful towards my parents.[/quote]No, you stated you are grateful for what [url=http://parentalwisdom.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/too-many-toys.png]you have[/url], you did not say your were grateful for what you parents [url=http://images.teamsugar.com/files/users/1/17470/10_2007/medfr05854.jpg]have done for you.[/url] Within the context of a rant telling your mother that you don't respect her, it certainly cannot be assumed that you are grateful of her. [Edited on 08.19.2012 1:29 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight My point is that saying that wouldn't have caused an issue. Her aggressive and totally unnecessary reaction caught me off guard.[/quote] So you used up all the logic in your brain deducing that the oven should be turned off after you were done with the pizza, and you didn't have any left to realize that something may have been troubling her that at moment? I'm not saying she wasn't being aggressive and unnecessarily loud for nothing. But she [i]is[/i] your mother, and saying what you said to her after made things more unnecessary. The johnson guy above said it best. If you support logic and common sense, then man up and reconcile. This shouldn't even have made it to B.net. If you were smart enough to realize the oven shouldn't have been turned on before you were done, you are smart enough to realize this whole thing was the result of your pride.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] squirrel dude [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] squirrel dude I guess I was on your side until: [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight I put my pizza in the oven with the added peppers and sat down in the living room. Another few minutes passed and she walked in and said, "No matter what we argue about, you shouldn't talk to me like that. I'm your mother". I told her, "You may be the reason I'm here, but I'm not going to inherently respect you. [i][b]I am grateful for what I have[/i][/b] but it doesn't mean I respect you at all. You argue with me, dad and gan-gan; it isn't us. You make your own stress and anger. Lose the attitude, calm the hell down and then I'll show you the respect you want".[/quote]You acted like an ungrateful douche. [/quote] I stated quite clearly that I am grateful towards my parents.[/quote]No, you stated you are grateful for what [b]you have[/b], you did not say your were grateful for what you parents [b]have done for you.[/b] Within the context of a rant telling your mother that you don't respect her, it certainly cannot be assumed that you are grateful of her. [/quote] That's a fair point, but I doubt anyone would analyse that to such an extent during a heated scenario, especially not my mother. She knew what I meant.
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Your mother is always right.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Covenant Crates [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight My point is that saying that wouldn't have caused an issue. Her aggressive and totally unnecessary reaction caught me off guard.[/quote] So you used up all the logic in your brain deducing that the oven should be turned off after you were done with the pizza, and you didn't have any left to realize that something may have been troubling her that at moment? I'm not saying she wasn't being aggressive and unnecessarily loud for nothing. But she [i]is[/i] your mother, and saying what you said to her after made things more unnecessary. The johnson guy above said it best. If you support logic and common sense, then man up and reconcile. This shouldn't even have made it to B.net. If you were smart enough to realize the oven shouldn't have been turned on before you were done, you are smart enough to realize this whole thing was the result of your pride. [/quote] We've established already that she was perfectly fine. And it doesn't take intelligence to realise that it'd be easier to leave it off until I'm done, than it being on and me having to hurry.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] squirrel dude [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] squirrel dude I guess I was on your side until: [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight I put my pizza in the oven with the added peppers and sat down in the living room. Another few minutes passed and she walked in and said, "No matter what we argue about, you shouldn't talk to me like that. I'm your mother". I told her, "You may be the reason I'm here, but I'm not going to inherently respect you. [i][b]I am grateful for what I have[/i][/b] but it doesn't mean I respect you at all. You argue with me, dad and gan-gan; it isn't us. You make your own stress and anger. Lose the attitude, calm the hell down and then I'll show you the respect you want".[/quote]You acted like an ungrateful douche. [/quote] I stated quite clearly that I am grateful towards my parents.[/quote]No, you stated you are grateful for what [b]you have[/b], you did not say your were grateful for what you parents [b]have done for you.[/b] Within the context of a rant telling your mother that you don't respect her, it certainly cannot be assumed that you are grateful of her. [/quote]That's a fair point, but I doubt anyone would analyse that to such an extent during a heated scenario, especially not my mother. She knew what I meant.[/quote]Sometimes what you don't notice, your brain does, and remembers. Forever.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight She knew what I meant.[/quote] That's not the point. "Son the machine is running hurry up and put your clothes in." "Why don't you turn the washing machine off then." He knows what I mean. Doesn't mean I can say it however the hell I want to him.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Covenant Crates [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight She knew what I meant.[/quote] That's not the point. "Son the machine is running hurry up and put your clothes in." "Why don't you turn the washing machine off then." He knows what I mean. Doesn't mean I can say it however the hell I want to him. [/quote] How many times do I have to tell you that what I said and the way said it wouldn't be considered disrespectful in my household?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Covenant Crates [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HistoryHighlight She knew what I meant.[/quote] That's not the point. "Son the machine is running hurry up and put your clothes in." "Why don't you turn the washing machine off then." He knows what I mean. Doesn't mean I can say it however the hell I want to him. [/quote] How many times do I have to tell you that what I said and the way said it wouldn't be considered disrespectful in my household? [/quote] And what you said afterwards wasn't disrespectful either, right? [quote] "What the hell is your problem mother? Drop your damn attitude and I wont speak to you like this. Sorry, I didn't realize I'm supposed to thank you when you act your age. You may be the reason I'm here, but I'm not going to inherently respect you. I am grateful for what I have but it doesn't mean I respect you at all. You argue with me, dad and gan-gan; it isn't us. You make your own stress and anger. Lose the attitude, calm the hell down and then I'll show you the respect you want".[/quote] You're a brat. I'm done arguing with you.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xNiGhThAwKx19 Your mother's. You sound very ungrateful. Did you ever consider that trying to provide for you is the cause of the stress? Jesus show a little a compassion.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xNiGhThAwKx19 Your mother's. You sound very ungrateful. Did you ever consider that trying to provide for you is the cause of the stress? Jesus show a little a compassion.[/quote]
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You are. Your mother sounds like she abuses her authority over you like there's no tomorrow. [Edited on 08.19.2012 1:42 PM PDT]
