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7/31/2012 8:16:45 PM
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Bungie.net login system - Hotmail is retiring

Now I'm not sure if any of you have been paying much attention around the Microsoft side of things, but just today Microsoft just announced a new preview of what's coming down the road to [url=http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/31/microsoft-reboots-webmail-efforts-with-a-familiar-name/?smid=tw-nytimes]replace "hotmail" with their new version of Outlook.[/url] If you go to [url]http://login.live.com/[/url], you'll notice that it looks a little bit different. However, the plan is to eventually move EVERYONE away from the "@hotmail.com" extension. [url=http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/microsoft-outlook-microsofts-webmail-service-takes-aim-gmail/story?id=16893915#.UBguXWlWrRc][quote]The new Outlook is an entirely new webmail service, complete with @outlook.com domains. It doesn't replace Microsoft's Hotmail or Windows Live email service, but it is very easy to move your @hotmail.com or @live.com email address over to the new service.[/quote][/url] [b]Now the question[/b]: Will this effect Bungie.net's login system? With a new bungie.net innovation and facelift right around the corner, can we expect to see a new login system with Outlook rather than @hotmail? Whether or not you like the change, eventually everyone will be forced over to the new service. Microsoft has had hotmail since 1997, and it's time for an upgrade. If possibly even the webteam could shed some light on this, it would be appreciated. Thanks.

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  • [quote]It's going to be pretty disastrous if MS takes hotmail offline. Alot of people (myself included) have @hotmail addresses tied to accounts all over the net. Many of those require you to answer a confirmation email to change your existing address. In my personal case, I also have to make a new PGP key and sign it with my old one (which has an @hotmail adress tied to it). Hurray for lavabit I suppose.[/quote] [b]Microsoft aren't taking Hotmail offline, they're taking the Hotmail UI offline![/b] All that's going to happen in the end is instead of signing in and seeing a Windows Live Hotmail interface, everyone will have an Outlook.com interface. The hotmail/live addresses won't be changed unless you choose to change them. [Edited on 08.06.2012 10:59 AM PDT]

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  • I don't like change.

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  • It's going to be pretty disastrous if MS takes hotmail offline. Alot of people (myself included) have @hotmail addresses tied to accounts all over the net. Many of those require you to answer a confirmation email to change your existing address. In my personal case, I also have to make a new PGP key and sign it with my old one (which has an @hotmail adress tied to it). Hurray for lavabit I suppose.

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  • Explanation for people who are still confused if you change your name. Let's say my old email name was jose291@hotmail.com made in 2004. So, I decide to change my name just to j291@hotmail.com I will still keep @hotmail.com because I am an old account, however if you make a new account today, it will have @outlook.com When you change your name, outlook will do the rest, to update your email name and still use your old one. It will make you a carpet to keep receiving emails from your old name account at the same time with your new name. Me, I am getting use to this, I can log to: xbox.com, Bungie and other sites with my new email name and I will log normally as I've all these years. Even my xbox live profile just got updated with my new email name.

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  • The old extensions will still work. Even though Microsoft is making outlook.com the primary email service, all current hotmail users will still be able to keep their hotmail.com address. Although, everyone will be migrated to outlook eventually. (I'm not sure if that means they will be given an @outlook.com or if they will just log in through outlook.com ) [Edited on 08.01.2012 1:26 PM PDT]

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  • I think I got it. So, if the old extensions aren't going to work you would go to outlook.com and login there, then go to bungie.net and hit the login? If those extensions are retiring, wouldn't you still have to change your email address associated with your bungie.net account to a @outlook.com? [Edited on 08.01.2012 1:24 PM PDT]

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  • Something tells me we wont be able to change our usernames. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 I can't wait till we can change our sign in info and usernames hopefully. [/quote]

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  • Quick... everyone stock up on original @outlook.com emails.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos You're confusing two seperate things - Windows Live ID (now know as Microsoft Accounts) and Hotmail. Hotmail uses a Microsoft Account to authenticate, just like Bungie.net. So does Live.com email. So does the new Outlook. So does some modes of Windows 8. So does Xbox Live. Underlying it all, though, are Microsoft Accounts. What's special about the Hotmail change is that normally, you cannot change the login name for Microsoft Accounts if they are hotmail or live.com email address. I'm pretty sure that the migration process will allow you to do so, but to bungie.net, you'll still be the same account. Whatever the case - the key is Windows Account == Windows Live ID, but Hotmail/Live.com/Outlook != Windows Account, they just use them to authenticate.[/quote] Schooled!!!

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  • Im using outlook now,changed my email name and every thing works fine.

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  • Something bad is going to happen.

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  • My WLID is @yahoo.com though.

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  • If you login to [url=http://www.outlook.com]outlook.com[/url] with your current WLID, @hotmail or @live account, you will have the opportunity to replace your WLID with a new @outlook.com account. It is extremely easy to do this, but be aware that, in the case that you are using a hotmail or live e-mail, if you replace your WLID for an Outlook one, [b]your old hotmail or live e-mail will no longer work[/b]. You will still receive e-mails sent to your old e-mail, but you will have to login using your new Outlook e-mail. I now have to login to Bungie.net using my new Outlook e-mail, trying to login using my old @hotmail.com e-mail doesn't work because that e-mail no longer exists. Edit: first post on the mains in 4 months. [Edited on 08.01.2012 11:40 AM PDT]

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  • I can't wait till we can change our sign in info and usernames hopefully.

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  • I think I'm one of the "parents" the article was talking about... I had a hotmail address (not the same one I use now, though) before they were aquired by Microsoft.

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  • Maybe we will be able to change usernames!!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Halcylon You just shattered the world of everyone in this thread. 'grats. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos You're confusing two seperate things - Windows Live ID (now know as Microsoft Accounts) and Hotmail. Hotmail uses a Microsoft Account to authenticate, just like Bungie.net. So does Live.com email. So does the new Outlook. So does some modes of Windows 8. So does Xbox Live. Underlying it all, though, are Microsoft Accounts. What's special about the Hotmail change is that normally, you cannot change the login name for Microsoft Accounts if they are hotmail or live.com email address. I'm pretty sure that the migration process will allow you to do so, but to bungie.net, you'll still be the same account. Whatever the case - the key is Windows Account == Windows Live ID, but Hotmail/Live.com/Outlook != Windows Account, they just use them to authenticate.[/quote][/quote] lol, that made me lol.

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  • Bungie's not Microsoft's slave anymore, so I believe that they can accept a wide variety of different emails now. EDIT: Just read other posts, ignore my response [Edited on 07.31.2012 8:09 PM PDT]

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  • You login with your WLID here. Hotmail is no longer being supported. Many people are going to need to change their email for WLID. Therefore your email will change but your WLID profile will not. Logging in here will consist of using your updated email from WLID when you change it. Since it is the same WLID account, Bungie has to do nothing.

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  • i use hotmail for this account. is this bad? im totally confused.

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  • I don't know what's going on in this thread, to be honest. I'm totally confused. But... since I don't use hotmail for my WLID/ Microsoft Account, I'm just going to close my eyes since I don't think this affects me.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duardo Bnet just uses the WLID, not the actual email address. So as long as the WLID is the same, it should be fine.[/quote] Hmm. Your concept of 'WILD' eludes me.

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  • Is that why Hotmail is now impossible to make an account on anymore. Trying to set up a second email and couldn't get past the anti-robot thing.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos Whatever the case - the key is Windows Account == Windows Live ID, but Hotmail/Live.com/Outlook != Windows Account, they just use them to authenticate.[/quote]Thanks for the clarification, I wasn't aware of two separate systems under the same "account". [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LordOfBlah51 Plus the Xbox Ambassador bots for giving support don't even work most of the time.[/quote]I usually just refresh the session or notify Xbox Support and they can fix it. Sometimes it's just a matter of no one asking questions. But that's off topic, not meant for discussion here.

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  • Meh, Outlook sucks IMO. I would rather they simplify all of those services into one like they're doing, but instead integrate it into Live. All they would have to do is clean up Live's site and Windows Live Messenger (since it's terrible to use) and I'd be happy with using it all the time. Trust me, using WLM is annoying. Plus the Xbox Ambassador bots for giving support don't even work most of the time.

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  • You just shattered the world of everyone in this thread. 'grats. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos You're confusing two seperate things - Windows Live ID (now know as Microsoft Accounts) and Hotmail. Hotmail uses a Microsoft Account to authenticate, just like Bungie.net. So does Live.com email. So does the new Outlook. So does some modes of Windows 8. So does Xbox Live. Underlying it all, though, are Microsoft Accounts. What's special about the Hotmail change is that normally, you cannot change the login name for Microsoft Accounts if they are hotmail or live.com email address. I'm pretty sure that the migration process will allow you to do so, but to bungie.net, you'll still be the same account. Whatever the case - the key is Windows Account == Windows Live ID, but Hotmail/Live.com/Outlook != Windows Account, they just use them to authenticate.[/quote]

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