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7/31/2012 8:16:45 PM
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Bungie.net login system - Hotmail is retiring
Now I'm not sure if any of you have been paying much attention around the Microsoft side of things, but just today Microsoft just announced a new preview of what's coming down the road to [url=http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/31/microsoft-reboots-webmail-efforts-with-a-familiar-name/?smid=tw-nytimes]replace "hotmail" with their new version of Outlook.[/url]
If you go to [url]http://login.live.com/[/url], you'll notice that it looks a little bit different. However, the plan is to eventually move EVERYONE away from the "@hotmail.com" extension.
[url=http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/microsoft-outlook-microsofts-webmail-service-takes-aim-gmail/story?id=16893915#.UBguXWlWrRc][quote]The new Outlook is an entirely new webmail service, complete with @outlook.com domains. It doesn't replace Microsoft's Hotmail or Windows Live email service, but it is very easy to move your @hotmail.com or @live.com email address over to the new service.[/quote][/url]
[b]Now the question[/b]: Will this effect Bungie.net's login system? With a new bungie.net innovation and facelift right around the corner, can we expect to see a new login system with Outlook rather than @hotmail?
Whether or not you like the change, eventually everyone will be forced over to the new service. Microsoft has had hotmail since 1997, and it's time for an upgrade.
If possibly even the webteam could shed some light on this, it would be appreciated. Thanks.
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You just shattered the world of everyone in this thread. 'grats. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos You're confusing two seperate things - Windows Live ID (now know as Microsoft Accounts) and Hotmail. Hotmail uses a Microsoft Account to authenticate, just like Bungie.net. So does Live.com email. So does the new Outlook. So does some modes of Windows 8. So does Xbox Live. Underlying it all, though, are Microsoft Accounts. What's special about the Hotmail change is that normally, you cannot change the login name for Microsoft Accounts if they are hotmail or live.com email address. I'm pretty sure that the migration process will allow you to do so, but to bungie.net, you'll still be the same account. Whatever the case - the key is Windows Account == Windows Live ID, but Hotmail/Live.com/Outlook != Windows Account, they just use them to authenticate.[/quote]
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My university uses outlook. It's not that bad tbh, but I prefer gmail. OT: Unless someone with decent knowledge shines light, I can't know fo sho' :{ Edit: Achronos has spoken. There's your answer. [Edited on 07.31.2012 1:14 PM PDT]
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You're confusing two seperate things - Windows Live ID (now know as Microsoft Accounts) and Hotmail. Hotmail uses a Microsoft Account to authenticate, just like Bungie.net. So does Live.com email. So does the new Outlook. So does some modes of Windows 8. So does Xbox Live. Underlying it all, though, are Microsoft Accounts. What's special about the Hotmail change is that normally, you cannot change the login name for Microsoft Accounts if they are hotmail or live.com email address. I'm pretty sure that the migration process will allow you to do so, but to bungie.net, you'll still be the same account. Whatever the case - the key is Windows Account == Windows Live ID, but Hotmail/Live.com/Outlook != Windows Account, they just use them to authenticate.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spawn031 Either way, I still hope to see a new login system for bungie.net once the update hits. [/quote] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=71958142&postRepeater1-p=1#71974685][quote][b]Posted by:[/b]Achronos: That being said, we are very aware that the current implementation is... less than ideal. Part of the problem is interacting with systems outside of our control, but we can do better. Improving the sign in/identity/account management aspect of bungie.net is pretty high up on our list of "things we need to get better at". Think about it - we want it to be very easy to join and have a positive experience in this community. If the sign in is in any way difficult, it turns people away. That is very bad.[/quote][/url] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b]Achronos: Improving the sign in/identity/account management aspect of bungie.net is pretty high up on our list of "things we need to get better at".[/quote] I think we might see a change with the new site update. I guess we are going to have to wait and see.
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Ah! I remember Achronos mentioning that the only reason bungie.net uses WLID right now anyways, is because otherwise there would be no way to authenticate your LIVE gamertag. I still wonder if Xbox Live will eventually change their main system to Outlook rather than WLID. Only time will tell. Either way, I still hope to see a new login system for bungie.net once the update hits. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duardo Bnet just uses the WLID, not the actual email address. So as long as the WLID is the same, it should be fine.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duardo Bnet just uses the WLID, not the actual email address. So as long as the WLID is the same, it should be fine.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duardo Bnet just uses the WLID, not the actual email address. So as long as the WLID is the same, it should be fine.[/quote]Bingo.
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Bnet just uses the WLID, not the actual email address. So as long as the WLID is the same, it should be fine.
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Ah gee, I hope this doesn't make too much of a mess. Perhaps the webteam already have something in mind though.
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Since I login with the WLID system I think I would just enter the new domain. I hope it's not too complicated of a conversion though. I doubt Bungie would have to do much except make sure the emails are still current.
